gaa v soccer

[experienced punter]

well I enjoy watching a hurling match few pints can't beat it I tend not to dwell on what did or not happen in the past hurling is a better game than soccer....

[luther]

we build the stadiums for our games..

"You" built "your" stadium with some public funding.............

Which I'd say makes it "everyone's"...............

Oh, and also to clarify........it's 2010..........

[Finbar]

Piss off smallboy - Mousey was dead right - too nice to ye in fact- The GAA is still a racist organisation hateful of all thing foreign- well representing the mentality of many of its adherents.

The ban and rule 42 ffs- welcome to the 21st century- ye were happier when ye were fundraising for the IRA...........

I think the organisation of the GAA is a lot like a political party - with veterans stuck in their old ways and others with more liberal views of how to proceed. I don't think the GAA is racist as it openly accepts foreign nationals to play the sports, as they recognise is is the way forward in a changing society, I have witnessed this myself. The rule 21 is an old rule like many of the laws in our country that was put in place as the reaction for events that occurred in Ireland. Maybe this and rule 42 should be changed in the present time but the history of these rules is quite significant in the overall history of the state which I don't think should be changed for political correctness.

[experienced punter]

I'm told the fiddle is good at the turnstiles at GAA matches....

[cartman]

"You" built "your" stadium with some public funding.............

Which I'd say makes it "everyone's"...............

Oh, and also to clarify........it's 2010..........

i said stadiums....and your point...it 2010 wat diff does that make

[ber]

"You" built "your" stadium with some public funding.............

Which I'd say makes it "everyone's"...............

Oh, and also to clarify........it's 2010..........

I have a real problem with this notion that because the GAA got money in the form of a grant
that this entitles everyone access to their facalities. The idea that public money paid for it is
totally missing the point, the grant was given because of the GAAs massive contribution to
society. If u want to take the public funding further at the moment there is a €1500 grant
avaliable to replace a 10 year old car with certain models of new cars, so does that mean
if my neighbour avails of this public money i should be entitled to drive his car? same thing
a few years ago we had a €3000 first time buyers grant for houses,so if im away from
home some night am i entitled to kip down at one of these houses cause they availed
of public money.? Furthermore the the goverment more than recouped their grant in tax
and VAT receipts. All over the country u have for instance privately owned golf clubs
who availed of public devolepment grants from tourist board etc,dont think i can pop in
and play cause im passing and i helped pay for it? So in my eyes this is just a rubbish
argument

[luther]

i said stadiums....and your point...it 2010 wat diff does that make

It makes no difference...........

I'm sure you know what I meant.........

Unless you think they're all being taken over..........

And as for the 2010 comment, it means we're living in 2010, not 1910..........

Or to put it another way, grow up...............

[luther]

I have a real problem with this notion that because the GAA got money in the form of a grant
that this entitles everyone access to their facalities. The idea that public money paid for it is
totally missing the point, the grant was given because of the GAAs massive contribution to
society. If u want to take the public funding further at the moment there is a €1500 grant
avaliable to replace a 10 year old car with certain models of new cars, so does that mean
if my neighbour avails of this public money i should be entitled to drive his car? same thing
a few years ago we had a €3000 first time buyers grant for houses,so if im away from
home some night am i entitled to kip down at one of these houses cause they availed
of public money.? Furthermore the the goverment more than recouped their grant in tax
and VAT receipts. All over the country u have for instance privately owned golf clubs
who availed of public devolepment grants from tourist board etc,dont think i can pop in
and play cause im passing and i helped pay for it? So in my eyes this is just a rubbish
argument

But this thing of saying it entitles everyone access to their facilities is a bit of a stretch, it's not like people are walking in for free............

And as for the grant being given to the GAA for their massive contribution to society, and I'm only using this as an example, has the IRFU not contributed to society??? Drawing it's players for the national team from all 32 counties I would have thought was a good indication of a social contribution......

Now just to be clear, I wouldn't deny the GAA any money they received, in the form of grants or any other way, it's a great orgainsation that as you say, has contributed massively to society. I've been to the HQ many times and have supported many sports etc. there and and have thoroughly enjoyed the fantastic facilities. It's something to be very proud of, for everybody..........

Now I'm sure what we're touching on here, all be it off topic, if the decision on rule 42, which at the end of the day make very sound commercial sence for the assocation. In my opinion, the assocation has changed, and is changing all the time and I think this decision was a step in the right direction, which I for one supported. I don't think the fact that the GAA may have received some public funding for their facilities entitles anybody to avail of them, but at the end of the day, it made good sence........

[cartman]

It makes no difference...........

I'm sure you know what I meant.........

Unless you think they're all being taken over..........

And as for the 2010 comment, it means we're living in 2010, not 1910..........

Or to put it another way, grow up...............

luther ...u seem like a nice guy.....but u dont know any in dept knowledge of gaa...or the thinking of gaa fan....as a follower of cork ,,all my life ..i feel very passionate about our games..and our entire set up ....from the local parish field to the world class stadium that is croke park...we are wat we are....the greatest amature sporting organisation in the world.....and we dont have to say sorry or make excuses or justify our selfs to you or any body...me..it would turn my stomach ..if i ever thought that a member of the crown forces wer allowed to play..against the wishes of the nothern teams.....if thats being racist...well i a racist

[Doozer]

luther ...u seem like a nice guy.....but u dont know any in dept knowledge of gaa...or the thinking of gaa fan....as a follower of cork ,,all my life ..i feel very passionate about our games..and our entire set up ....from the local parish field to the world class stadium that is croke park...we are wat we are....the greatest amature sporting organisation in the world.....and we dont have to say sorry or make excuses or justify our selfs to you or any body...me..it would turn my stomach ..if i ever thought that a member of the crown forces wer allowed to play..against the wishes of the nothern teams.....if thats being racist...well i a racist

What, I bet you didnt want the 'foreign' teams playing a Croker. Everything that happend happend in the past. Time to move on Cartman. I mean the lads who would be playing did not participate in all the rape, murder and pillaging that the crown did. That akin to saying that all Germans are still Nazies. Im Irish through and through and still want England to loose any sporting event that they play but to deny them a game, (one that we might actually beat them in) is just wrong. and not to leave them play on our pitch is equally wrong (again wouldnt it be better to beat them on home turf in front of Irish fans)