Israel

[john40]

Before I start. I condemn totally and utterly the horrendous actions of Hamas. I deplor violence on any side.

However, the conditions the Palestinian people have been living under for decades are disgraceful. It's not life, it's not even existence. I can completely understand when they state "they've had enough".

Imagine living in conditions where your daily electricity supply is rationed, you don't have access to clean water. You're sprayed with 'skunk' water (basically sewage water). You can't even travel to hospital without being interrogated and often not getting there to receive treatment. A lot of Palestinian men make an income fishing but yet they can't travel out a certain distance to where they can get more fish because they'll be shot by Israeli soldiers.

You also live under the threat of being told to move out of your home within a few days to make way for settlers and if you don't, the Isrselis will be around to demolish it. They contunue to build settlements despite being told on numerous occasions to cease.

On a trip to Israel in 1991 I travelled to the West Bank. I met some of the most beautiful people and children whom I think a lot of and hope they got to make it to adulthood, something we all take for granted.

Nobody has ever stood up to Israel. The American are pumping billions to them every year. They have stuck the two fingers up to every UN resolution that has been passed.

I don't know where all this is going to end. But just look at any other time there has been an uprising in trouble and look at the loss of life on both sides (I don't want to see anyone die) but there are infinitely more lives lost each time on the Palestinian side.

I hope all this ends soon

[JennyIrish]

I have to spend some time looking this up today because I don’t understand any of it but, my God, I saw some horrific stuff online last night. Man’s inhumanity to man is mind boggling.

[PhilPhilPhil]

From today's Sunday Times - a settler/occupier speaks about Hamas:

“They shot people and entered homes, kidnapped people,” said Perry, 36, who was still trapped in a safe room with her husband and their dog on Saturday afternoon. “People shared footage from safety cameras showing it all happen. There were gunshots, screams. The amount of terror and cruelty is beyond compare. It’s like a horror movie.”

The absolute lack of irony is astounding, perhaps she could compare it to what the Israelis do to Palestinians on a daily basis? Try having your house or neighbourhood wiped out by a tank or an F-16 in the blink of an eye. Or armed Israeli 'settlers' showing up to evict you from your house supported by the IDF - the Palestinian's have no safety cameras or safe rooms, they have a daily fight to survive.

Hamas will unfortunately heap more pain on the Palestinians as Israel now has an 'excuse' to go further with it's ethnic cleansing while the world cheers it on and helps fund it, utterly disgusting situation.

[Airbusdriver]

The attack by Hamas is shocking and sickening. To drag women and children off the streets and take them hostage in Gaza is appalling. They also beat to death a young German mother who was simply enjoying music at a Peace Festival, then stripped her naked and paraded her dead body through Gaza. How can any human being justify that??? These are animals, make no mistake. What is really sickening is that Sinn Fein continue to suppprt this terrorist organisation. Sinn Fein haven't changed. A leopard diesnt change its spots.

[TommyH123]

The attack by Hamas is shocking and sickening. To drag women and children off the streets and take them hostage in Gaza is appalling. They also beat to death a young German mother who was simply enjoying music at a Peace Festival, then stripped her naked and paraded her dead body through Gaza. How can any human being justify that??? These are animals, make no mistake. What is really sickening is that Sinn Fein continue to suppprt this terrorist organisation. Sinn Fein haven't changed. A leopard diesnt change its spots.

This thread has fuck all to do with Sinn Fein but sure don’t let that stop you 🙄

[Marko1980]

This thread has fuck all to do with Sinn Fein but sure don’t let that stop you ��

This is going to be the craic for the next couple of weeks unfortunately, the mutton heads in the Government will be using this to have a cut at Sinn Fein at every available opportunity.
Pathetic.

[TommyH123]

This is going to be the craic for the next couple of weeks unfortunately, the mutton heads in the Government will be using this to have a cut at Sinn Fein at every available opportunity.
Pathetic.

But but but…what about Sinn Fein?
Government default deflection setting for any and all situations

[Airbusdriver]

This thread is about man's inhumanity to man. If people get uncomfortable about Sinn Fein being mentioned then tough shit. Sinn Fein openly suppport Hamas, which the last time I checked is a terrorist organisation. No person has the right to abduct, rape and torture innocent civilians. Looking at the videos of that poor German mother being dragged naked through the streets of Gaza yesterday was shocking. It reminded me of the Sinn Fein/IRA savages who hacked two soldiers to death in Belfast in the eighties. Supporting such acts is vile and a reminder of who and what Sinn Fein really are.

[Stephanie]

How about a thread : Gaza - Israel ??

There’s not One suffering party here - Far from it !!

[Stephanie]

Before I start. I condemn totally and utterly the horrendous actions of Hamas. I deplor violence on any side.

However, the conditions the Palestinian people have been living under for decades are disgraceful. It's not life, it's not even existence. I can completely understand when they state "they've had enough".

Imagine living in conditions where your daily electricity supply is rationed, you don't have access to clean water. You're sprayed with 'skunk' water (basically sewage water). You can't even travel to hospital without being interrogated and often not getting there to receive treatment. A lot of Palestinian men make an income fishing but yet they can't travel out a certain distance to where they can get more fish because they'll be shot by Israeli soldiers.

You also live under the threat of being told to move out of your home within a few days to make way for settlers and if you don't, the Isrselis will be around to demolish it. They contunue to build settlements despite being told on numerous occasions to cease.

On a trip to Israel in 1991 I travelled to the West Bank. I met some of the most beautiful people and children whom I think a lot of and hope they got to make it to adulthood, something we all take for granted.

Nobody has ever stood up to Israel. The American are pumping billions to them every year. They have stuck the two fingers up to every UN resolution that has been passed.

I don't know where all this is going to end. But just look at any other time there has been an uprising in trouble and look at the loss of life on both sides (I don't want to see anyone die) but there are infinitely more lives lost each time on the Palestinian side.

I hope all this ends soon

At first blush my instinct was : it’s a false flag .

How would Gaza , Hamas , Abbas even Remotely Hope to make a god damn’d difference

against such powerful oppressor as Israel ??

Look at the size of these ‘countries’ , territories ; look at their population and economy

in comparison to each .

Hamas , Gaza / and by extension West Bank stand no chance - no matter who may be supplying them .

What had transpired was either a false flag or a suicide and mass-killing-atrocities brief campaign

borne out of generations’ of frustration .

The coming result will be a merciless pushback from Israel , no quarter given , no mercy shown .

But No Sane person - no matter how frustrated - would initiate such an attack and provoke the repercussions ::

:: it will be Palestinians dying in the greatest numbers - some men , but women and children !






/ when I say false flag :: the actual actors on the ground ( thousands of Hamas rockets and

the Hamas ‘ soldiers / terrorists infiltrating west Israel ) likely not even aware of the wicked

Global chess game that is playing out at the cost of Their assured death , and at the cost of

losing innumerable innocent lives on each side .



How will it end ?

Unless US / and the rest change their policy on Israel , the end will be the total wipe out of Palestine .

I hope Arafat is uncomfortable in his afterlife : he had the One opportunity to sign a long lasting

continued peace deal with Ehud Barak , giving Palestine everything they have been fighting for ,

and he refused :: for the sheer egomaniacal reason of trying to stay in power of PLO .

Damned his countrymen to a slow and bloodied extinction .