Israel

**Notabot** · 09-10-23, 15:49

Ursula von der Leyen on twitter last night saying the European Union stands with Israel. Is this woman serious?. Israel has been murdering Palestinians for decade and the EU has let it happen. Benjamin Netanyahu has said his forces will lay siege to gaza and make them pay for the attacks over the weekend, the EU is backing the killing of Palestinians? Not in my name it won't. I don't nor will I ever support the terrorist state that is Israel

**Airbusdriver** · 09-10-23, 16:09

Originally Posted by Notabot

Ursula von der Leyen on twitter last night saying the European Union stands with Israel. Is this woman serious?. Israel has been murdering Palestinians for decade and the EU has let it happen. Benjamin Netanyahu has said his forces will lay siege to gaza and make them pay for the attacks over the weekend, the EU is backing the killing of Palestinians? Not in my name it won't. I don't nor will I ever support the terrorist state that is Israel

Of course the EU stands with Israel. You think it's ok to carry out a mass terrorist attack like this and target mainly innocent civilians? It's ok to rape them, parade their naked bodies through the streets like savages?? Ok to grab elderly women and young kids and take them as hostages into Gaza?? Even in war they are rules. Every country had the right to defend itself. Nothing about the Hamas attack is acceptable. No right thinking person could condone what happened on Saturday morning. Ursula von der Leyen is right.

**Notabot** · 09-10-23, 17:57

Originally Posted by Airbusdriver

Of course the EU stands with Israel. You think it's ok to carry out a mass terrorist attack like this and target mainly innocent civilians? It's ok to rape them, parade their naked bodies through the streets like savages?? Ok to grab elderly women and young kids and take them as hostages into Gaza?? Even in war they are rules. Every country had the right to defend itself. Nothing about the Hamas attack is acceptable. No right thinking person could condone what happened on Saturday morning. Ursula von der Leyen is right.

No I don't think any of that is right. Hamas are wrong for what they are doing to civilians. But let's not forget what Israel has been doing to Palestinians for decades. How many innocent civilians have Israel killed and the world stood by and watched?. Even now when Israel is leveling apartment blocks killing hundreds of civilians no country is telling them to stop "Every country has a right to defend itself". That also includes Palestine are living in and open prison fighting against genocide of their people. The EU can show sympathy with the victim but for its non elected leader to state the EU is fully behind Israel and it's response to the attacks is bang out of order. The EU shouldn't be backing genocide.

**Airbusdriver** · 09-10-23, 18:37

Originally Posted by Notabot

No I don't think any of that is right. Hamas are wrong for what they are doing to civilians. But let's not forget what Israel has been doing to Palestinians for decades. How many innocent civilians have Israel killed and the world stood by and watched?. Even now when Israel is leveling apartment blocks killing hundreds of civilians no country is telling them to stop "Every country has a right to defend itself". That also includes Palestine are living in and open prison fighting against genocide of their people. The EU can show sympathy with the victim but for its non elected leader to state the EU is fully behind Israel and it's response to the attacks is bang out of order. The EU shouldn't be backing genocide.

The EU was unanimous today in their statement. Every single member State agreed on the text. Furthermore The Irish Department of Foreign Affairs issued their own statement confirming full and total support for the EU position.

The Hamas attack was wrong. Nothing justifies it, not even Israeli injustices. Like the scum who went into the Bataclan in Paris and killed over a hundred people - because they believed it was justified for their cause - it wasn't and it never is.

**Marko1980** · 09-10-23, 19:59

Originally Posted by AmyTantraMassage

Not the same. It was a genocide. But the problem with thos country is pride. Wanting to suffer I'm silence rather than admit to being victims. People who claim endangered servitude was the same as being enslaved are mostly racists who use that as an excuse to be hateful. It's easy to pretend to be a victim over something that didn't happen than to admit to being 'weak' and forced to starve whilst they took all the food away. By definition. It was a genocide. Denying it won't make it not true.

I won't touch on the holocaust because that's 1 of the purest forms of racism. Only the white victims are talked about. Its literally acknowledges only European Jews who were killed and to he'll with the equal numbers of none Jews. Just because Hews rule America and can get away with shite. It should be about every single life lost.

We will agree to disagree.
Youre very much in the minority on that one, but plenty of Irish Americans will back you up on the genocide bit.

There has to be intent to call it a genocide, the government didnt manufacture a potato blight.

Again, its not saying it wasnt a heinous act to sit back and watch people die, its definitely as bad but you have to start out to kill people to call it a genocide.

**Marko1980** · 09-10-23, 20:59

Originally Posted by Airbusdriver

The EU was unanimous today in their statement. Every single member State agreed on the text. Furthermore The Irish Department of Foreign Affairs issued their own statement confirming full and total support for the EU position.

The Hamas attack was wrong. Nothing justifies it, not even Israeli injustices. Like the scum who went into the Bataclan in Paris and killed over a hundred people - because they believed it was justified for their cause - it wasn't and it never is.

Statement from the Israeli defense minister
"There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals & we will act accordingly."

Backing Israel is backing this.
There are 1 million kids in Gaza, do you think this is right?

If you would just admit that you dont care about Palestinian civilians getting bombed to dust then that would save a lot of over and back.

**IAmLIAm** · 09-10-23, 21:58

Originally Posted by Marko1980

Statement from the Israeli defense minister
"There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals & we will act accordingly."

Backing Israel is backing this.
There are 1 million kids in Gaza, do you think this is right?

If you would just admit that you dont care about Palestinian civilians getting bombed to dust then that would save a lot of over and back.

You're right. The moral high ground here is supporting the side that just announced that they will publicly execute innocent abductees and broadcast the murders to the world with sound.

Let's not pretend that any of this is one sided.

**Barney Rubble** · 09-10-23, 21:59

Originally Posted by Airbusdriver

This thread is about man's inhumanity to man. If people get uncomfortable about Sinn Fein being mentioned then tough shit. Sinn Fein openly suppport Hamas, which the last time I checked is a terrorist organisation. No person has the right to abduct, rape and torture innocent civilians. Looking at the videos of that poor German mother being dragged naked through the streets of Gaza yesterday was shocking. It reminded me of the Sinn Fein/IRA savages who hacked two soldiers to death in Belfast in the eighties. Supporting such acts is vile and a reminder of who and what Sinn Fein really are.

And when exactly did this happen ?

During the funerals of 2 people killed by Michael Stone in Milltown Cemetery at the funerals of the 3 IRA members murdered by British forces on the Rock of Gibraltar .

And after what had already happened at the previous funeral how did you expect the crowd to react when a car speeds to front of the funeral cottage and 1 of them pulls a gun out ?

Them 2 men were sarcrifical lambs by the British State so TV cameras at the funeral could record us Irish "savages".

Fuvk you. I'm no savage but in the same circumstances I'm not sure what my reaction would have been.

And like the majority of Irish people I support the people of Palestine for the intolerable circumstances they have had to live under with the oppression from the Israeli state.

What has happened the last few days is deplorable.

But as others have alluded to HOW did HAMAS manage these attacks with all the security Israel have in place along the border with Gaza ?

Benjamin Netanyahu is a cunt and he's alway been a cunt.

**Stephanie** · 10-10-23, 06:04

“Israel says Gaza border is now sealed after three days of the attack”

Now will come the ‘payback’ :: no food , no fuel , no medicine into the open air prison .

This a messed up world , this a messed up thing .

Beyond me how civilized countries / EU can support the continued abuse and extermination

of a people . It goes against Everything that we Supposedly stand for .

US historically interfering in other countries’ affairs on the notion of human rights and ‘for democracy’ .

‘Regime change’ even .

And in meantime this ?

Of Course we cannot Not support Israel : our economy and political system too dependent on and

intertwined with Jewish interest and influence .

What EU’s reason ???

**Stephanie** · 10-10-23, 06:18

I should’ve read the last few posts before posting my own thoughts ..

Have repeated much of what others have already said .

D’oh x

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