The Libertarian (04-03-24)
Corsasport (03-03-24), The Libertarian (04-03-24), WellDressed (04-03-24)
The Libertarian (04-03-24), TonyB (03-03-24)
Not a lawyer, but the standard is generally "beyond reasonable doubt". If you are caught in or leaving an apartment where an escort has a live advertisement, and there has been a call or messages with the number in the advertisement then that must easily meet the threshold.
TonyB (08-03-24)
If massage services only albeit including B2B and reference also to say erotic massage are offered, are these illegal services ?
Wow, somewhat surprised at that I have to say. Makes a nonsense then of adverts saying that you only pay for time. The escort can and does choose what services that she might provide. I would guess that certain clients probably don't avail of what can be defined as sexual services. I'd say many a client has paid for a kiss and a cuddle. How could he be prosecuted ?
TonyB (08-03-24)
This still counts as "sexual services" so I think technically you could be done for it, just as you could for an erotic massage. Whether they would proceed in those marginal cases is another matter. Also, the existence of the favourites list makes a bit of a nonsense of the "time and companionship" argument.
Are you sure MLC ? Seems ridiculous that you could be prosecuted for paying kissing and cuddling ? Surely paying for a lap dance in a lap dancing club would be more 'sexual service' ? At least I understand ( just about ) the HR service . Making criminals of genuine consenting adults seems absolutely barmy to me.
TonyB (08-03-24)
I find this thread a bit confusing. As far as I can see, from a fairly extensive search of the web, the only successful conviction of a man for paying for sexual services was in early 2019. The man in question was in his mid-sixties and it appears that he significantly contributed to his own problems by admitting to having purchased sexual services when questioned by the Guards.
There have been numerous media reports of the Guards questioning suspects or engaging in ‘days of action’, but I can’t find any evidence of actual convictions.
If anyone has any compelling evidence (and I emphasise ‘compelling evidence’) of any other convictions of men in the Republic of Ireland relating to the purchase of sexual services under the 2017 legislation, I would be very grateful if they could post the evidence on this thread.