Russel Brand

[SteveB]

As always, the narrow issue of Russell Brand raises the wider issue of the role of the press in society.
Often the many inappropriate sensational issues printed in the gutter press obscures the good work that the serious press can do.

[TonyB]

" ‘It isn’t trial by media. The newspaper and TV station have done their job. Now if there’s going to be a trial it’s a job for the police … the job for the newspaper is to expose and reveal, that’s what they’ve done.’ " [Andrew Neil]

Like they did with Bill Roache?

[TonyB]

Exactly, people actually think the media keeping quiet and saying nothing is the correct course of action. Basically, what they did with Jimmy Saville.

Is that a failing of the press or the police or coverup by the BBC?

Or the acceptance across society of things rightly no longer tolerated.
Were Irish schools any different?

[SteveB]

Is that a failing of the press or the police or coverup by the BBC?

Or the acceptance across society of things rightly no longer tolerated.
Were Irish schools any different?

No, Irish Schools were much worse. And some of them still are.

[hitman76]

I watched it yesterday. He's a creep. Hope he goes down

He slept with "thousands" of women in his younger days for free Ill add and that's an achievement you and I will never have

[TonyB]

I wasn't around in the 70s. Are you trying to say a grown man repeatedly raping an 8 year old in hospital was tolerated back then?

I think you've gotten in over your head in this argument. Please look up some of Savilles crimes. But you probably won't believe them because he was never found guilty in a court of law

There was a lot of unacceptable behaviour burried in the past in Ireland and I am sure the world.
One scandal after another.
Magdalene Laundries.
Numerous in my own school from when I was a child.
Luckily while I witnessed it, I was never a victim.

Priests moved from our school by the Church and popped up in another school

Complete madness.
All covered up

Most of them got away with it only because they died.

But this doesn't make a witch hunt today, a trial by media, correct either.
The media want to sell news, they'll spin it to attract attention.


Bringing Saville into it is bringing justification to your point of view that witch hunts are justified, when I'm saying proper justice is the remit of the judicial services that could I think be more proactive for everyone's sake.

Justice delayed is justice denied, especially for those being judged by a media led witch hunt

[TonyB]

There was a lot of unacceptable behaviour burried in the past in Ireland and I am sure the world.
One scandal after another.
Magdalene Laundries.
Numerous in my own school from when I was a child.
Luckily while I witnessed it, I was never a victim.

Priests moved from our school by the Church and popped up in another school

Complete madness.
All covered up

Most of them got away with it only because they died.

But this doesn't make a witch hunt today, a trial by media, correct either.
The media want to sell news, they'll spin it to attract attention.


Bringing Saville into it is bringing justification to your point of view that witch hunts are justified, when I'm saying proper justice is the remit of the judicial services that could I think be more proactive for everyone's sake.

Justice delayed is justice denied, especially for those being judged by a media led witch hunt

Oh for God sake, it 1pm already.
Where are my days going?

[Forceuser]

[Notabot]

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty. So far there is no criminal charges brought against him. World of social media has gone crazy

[FredBiscuits]

Is he locked up, or has he had his assets frozen? No. So he is currently innocent.

Anyone, who is essentially a freelancer, will lose work or income if stories like this came out about them. Would you prefer him to still be making money off YouTube, and also potentially prejudicing a trial should one happen?