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    At 1.30 pm 18 th Feb Parnell Square a march against the far right is happening . I will be there as I want to show my opposition to the Far right trying to gain a foothold here . We are better than that kind of crap


    https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/far...89303-Feb2023/
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    Quote Originally Posted by beautyaddict View Post
    At 1.30 pm 18 th Feb Parnell Square a march against the far right is happening . I will be there as I want to show my opposition to the Far right trying to gain a foothold here . We are better than that kind of crap


    https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/far...89303-Feb2023/
    Can you do it the following Saturday the 25th? As I'm working the 18th and I don't want to be stuck in traffic for another useless protest that will achieve absolutely nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pegmyass85 View Post
    Can you do it the following Saturday the 25th? As I'm working the 18th and I don't want to be stuck in traffic for another useless protest that will achieve absolutely nothing.
    Read the article , doing nothing is even worse. Your a smart guy figure out your logistics , and you seem to be accepting it will be a large march otherwise no real traffic congestion, thanks for that
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    Quote Originally Posted by beautyaddict View Post
    At 1.30 pm 18 th Feb Parnell Square a march against the far right is happening . I will be there as I want to show my opposition to the Far right trying to gain a foothold here . We are better than that kind of crap


    https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/far...89303-Feb2023/
    Read the article .

    So Irish Times , Indo are ‘far-right’ publications / as per the other thread ;

    Now , is finally The Journal an unbiased voice ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by beautyaddict View Post
    Read the article , doing nothing is even worse. Your a smart guy figure out your logistics , and you seem to be accepting it will be a large march otherwise no real traffic congestion, thanks for that
    Less than 200 hundred protesters had me stuck for 3 hours in east wall when it started. Is less than 2 hundred a large march.

    Actually doing something is worse. It's showing the far right that your worried about them.

    You really want to do something to stop it. Tell the government to stop letting everyone and anyone in without checks or a plan of action.

    What's the government going to do in month or so time when the hotels that are currently being used to "house" all these kick them and tourists season starts. Where Will all go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie View Post
    Read the article .

    So Irish Times , Indo are ‘far-right’ publications / as per the other thread ;

    Now , is finally The Journal an unbiased voice ?
    Not really the subject but v little left wing here Centre right to right but nothing like Fox type stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pegmyass85 View Post
    Less than 200 hundred protesters had me stuck for 3 hours in east wall when it started. Is less than 2 hundred a large march.

    Actually doing something is worse. It's showing the far right that your worried about them.

    You really want to do something to stop it. Tell the government to stop letting everyone and anyone in without checks or a plan of action.

    What's the government going to do in month or so time when the hotels that are currently being used to "house" all these kick them and tourists season starts. Where Will all go?
    You think we knew Ukraine was coming , I am hoping several thousand are there , yes we have a serious challenge but should we have refused to help Ukraine. Do nothing is not an answer to the Far right IMO

    We have serious challenges here that pre date refugees so scapegoating them is exploitation . You think it is right to use media to accuse people leading to assaults . Not sure of your position are you a far right guy, are you a putin guy , asking for a friend
    And if you are against this stuff what about some suggestions other than ostrich and sand
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    Quote Originally Posted by beautyaddict View Post
    At 1.30 pm 18 th Feb Parnell Square a march against the far right is happening . I will be there as I want to show my opposition to the Far right trying to gain a foothold here . We are better than that kind of crap


    https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/far...89303-Feb2023/
    Omg that Also is SO not on !

    Violence and threats of violence against immigrant people !

    Burning a building down !? Inexcusable no matter what the supposed ‘Cause’ it’s for !

    Perpetrators should be found and prosecuted to the very full extent of the law !

    Unforgivable !

    It is good that it’s recognized that most people protesting over the weekend are in fact

    not ‘right-wing’ , but that the right-wing is very quick to infiltrate and take advantage of

    the situation and agitate even further — which I think is just So wrong ! Taking people’s

    legitimate concerns and conflating it with their ( right wing ) racist exclusionary aims .

    Wrong .

    But I think where this article is doing itself and the people it speaks for a disservice is

    oh ever so carefully dancing around the legitimate concern :

    As per Department of Justice : 40% of 2022 Immigrant people entered the country with

    false documents, or with no papers whatsoever .

    There is a Difference between legitimate refugees ( I do Not believe that Irish people

    of whatever class are protesting against taking in women and children escaping bombardment !) ,

    and those who discard their identity papers before showing up at border control .

    The government is failing its people in allowing undocumented unvetted Immigrants whose

    identity Cannot be verified , to freely enter a ‘virgin’ country . Imo Ireland 🇮🇪 is Not prepared

    to be able to deal with the issues that Will arise from such border leniency .

    Further :

    The article very cleverly refers to ‘migrants’ . Here there are no ‘migrants’ : they’re not transient ,

    just coming through > “migrant” .

    They are undocumented Immigrants . Imo That is the issue re immigration .



    / but , I am far from the best informed on the issues that prob go much deeper than what I can see ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by beautyaddict View Post
    Not really the subject but v little left wing here Centre right to right but nothing like Fox type stuff.
    I’m just trying to establish : so The Journal is a factual unbiased publication ?

    I’d like to believe there’s Some middle-of-the-road news source in the country ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie View Post
    I’m just trying to establish : so The Journal is a factual unbiased publication ?

    I’d like to believe there’s Some middle-of-the-road news source in the country ?
    The article is written by a socialist politician, so take from that what you will. Unbiased news sources are hard to come by, every publication nowadays seems to have a leaning one way or another. The ditch maybe, maybe as close to centre as you can get but I could be wrong on that.
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