sure you seen that last night and against sunderland, when Torres and Gerrard are not playing liverpool look short ov ideas and world class players who can fill in for them, they have to many fringe players and not squad players who can come in and not disrupt the team!

but i think the man utd game is the game liverpool need right now, i have a feeling if Gerrard and Torres play i think they will beat us, theres no better motivation for liverpool than to beat utd, and we arent playing to well ourselves at the moment, but if the 2 lads are out, then utd will get a result, and owen to score the winner in front ov the kop!