What does it mean when you say someone is a man or a woman?

[IrishSarahBarra]

Sounds like a load of hocus pocus designed to stifle debate, would be laughable if it wasn't backed by legislation and horror stories.

Well, unless I’m missing something, it’s either that or there’s no such thing as gender identity. I can’t see another explanation? And if there’s no such thing as gender identity it’s because there’s no such thing as the second meaning for gender. And if there’s no such thing as the second meaning for gender (or whatever you want to call the phenomenon) it must be because, beyond biological conditions, being a woman = being a man, which is absolutely ridiculous because as soon as you as you make any two physical things different to one another and let them be observed, thoughts will happen.

[EscortInspector]

Your orientation is what gender you’re attracted to, not what gender you have sex with. You control the first, you can’t control the second.

I disagreed with your premises here.

Yes, I’d say you’re in control of your orientation, it’s entirely about you are your perception (not that you can change it, just that it’s self). You have no control over what the other person’s gender is beyond what you can see, and you’ve no control over what they are on paper. I’d say that your orientation is self and not outside influences.

Well, unless I’m missing something, it’s either that or there’s no such thing as gender identity. I can’t see another explanation? And if there’s no such thing as gender identity it’s because there’s no such thing as the second meaning for gender. And if there’s no such thing as the second meaning for gender (or whatever you want to call the phenomenon) it must be because beyond biological conditions, being a woman = being a man

You haven't managed to convince me.

Orientation is a protected characteristic because it is seen as being an immutable, deterministic property of an individual. No one chooses what they are attracted to, it is determined by genetics and environment. Although I had no choice in being attracted to women I did have a choice, or at least had some say in, all of my previous sexual partners; all women or adult human females.

[IrishSarahBarra]

I worded that incorrectly, control as in it’s yours, not that you can change it, not controlled by outside influences.

[EscortInspector]

I worded that incorrectly, control as in it’s yours, not that you can change it, not controlled by outside influences.

Back to the drawing board!

[IrishSarahBarra]

I disagreed with your premises here.




You haven't managed to convince me.

Orientation is a protected characteristic because it is seen as being an immutable, deterministic property of an individual. No one chooses what they are attracted to, it is determined by genetics and environment. Although I had no choice in being attracted to women I did have a choice, or at least had some say in, all of my previous sexual partners; all women or adult human females.

So, you’re heterosexual, and if you accidentally had sex with a man and enjoyed it, you’d still be heterosexual. That’s all I’m saying. If any of those women identified as male, if any of them were once male, if any of them were male on their documents or if for some reason it was illegal for them to be female in either where they’re from or where you had sex, you’re still heterosexual.

[EscortInspector]

So, you’re heterosexual, and if you accidentally had sex with a man and enjoyed it, you’d still be heterosexual.

If you enjoyed it you'd be bi, as in bi bi heterosexuality

I'm going for my lunch and to get a fresh cut. Later!

[IrishSarahBarra]

If you enjoyed it you'd be bi, as in bi bi heterosexuality

I'm going for my lunch and to get a fresh cut. Later!

I suppose I should go do some work. I’m in my fourth week of 5 weeks holidays and still have a giant hole in my ceiling and zero painting done.

[AngelsFan]

That I accept an ideology, namely Gender Self-ID, as being sufficent. I prefer a little more commitment from people, get the legal documents, take the hormones, have the top surgery and live like the sex you present as.

But who is forcing you to accept the ideology? Really as you go about your day? As you book an escort or go to work or for a few drinks and a meal.

I'm assuming you are an adult male like me.
If a woman says she identifies as a man and comes to urinate in a Male public bathroom it's not too terrible. Or if you get sent to prison and there are female prisoners who identify as male.

I assume you can look out for your children and guide them.

I don't understand why other people way over there doing whatever they want is so objectionable to you personally.

So that's a few assumptions and me open to making an ass out of u and me, but it really is bizarre to me how popular this topic is on an escort site time after time.

I don't understand why Stephanie is so invested in it either, but I don't want to go there.

[EscortInspector]

If a woman says she identifies as a man and comes to urinate in a Male public bathroom

What does it mean when you say someone is a man or a woman?

[AngelsFan]

What does it mean when you say someone is a man or a woman?

Poor form a little, to ignore my questions just to reiterate your own.
So no thanks. I do know what I mean when I refer to a man or a woman but if other people have subtle or more fluid interpretations then that doesn't bother me at all.
How is it affecting you personally?