What does it mean when you say someone is a man or a woman?

[IrishSarahBarra]

That I accept an ideology, namely Gender Self-ID, as being sufficent. I prefer a little more commitment from people, get the legal documents, take the hormones, have the top surgery and live like the sex you present as.

You’re not going to get blanket full-transitions from people while a) anyone sees biological sex and gender as two different components (or where sex is simply an outward appearance/ expression on internal self), b) it’s unachievable because of costs, time, health, society, whatever (and, you can’t rule for the privileged and let everyone else suffer), c) IDK what else, I’m sure there’s more

[WeeJimmy]

so what am I then

I love sex with girls but also with TS escorts but only occasionally but never had sex with a guy or TV's so i'm not classed as homosexual or bi.

[EscortInspector]

You’re not going to get blanket full-transitions from people while a) anyone sees biological sex and gender as two different components (or where sex is simply an outward appearance/ expression on internal self), b) it’s unachievable because of costs, time, health, society, whatever (and, you can’t rule for the privileged and let everyone else suffer), c) IDK what else, I’m sure there’s more

Sex is fundamental.

[IrishSarahBarra]

Sex is fundamental.

Sorry, you’re right, you’re right. I meant genitalia/sex parts, not biological sex/chromosomes and whatnot

[IrishSarahBarra]

so what am I then

I love sex with girls but also with TS escorts but only occasionally but never had sex with a guy or TV's so i'm not classed as homosexual or bi.

Your orientation is what gender you’re attracted to, not what gender you have sex with. You control the first, you can’t control the second.

[EscortInspector]

Your orientation is what gender you’re attracted to, not what gender you have sex with. You control the first, you can’t control the second.

You can control your orientation but not who you sleep with?

I would have thought it was the other way around!

Altogether confusing

[IrishSarahBarra]

I think it's the obsession with children that scares most people. Whatever adults want to do to their own bodies is no ones concern. This is the rock that the entire movement will perish on.

You should try the fear of not letting your child delay puberty while you’ve known your own gender and orientation by age 5 whilst knowing the number of people who regret delaying puberty is extremely low.

[EscortInspector]

You should try the fear of not letting your child delay puberty while you’ve known your own gender and orientation by age 5 whilst knowing the number of people who regret delaying puberty is extremely low.

It's hard enough raising kids without interfering with their development. Thanks, but no thanks.

[IrishSarahBarra]

You can control your orientation but not who you sleep with?

I would have thought it was the other way around!

Altogether confusing

Im thinking as I go

Yes, I’d say you’re in control of your orientation, it’s entirely about you are your perception (not that you can change it, just that it’s self). You have no control over what the other person’s gender is beyond what you can see, and you’ve no control over what they are on paper. I’d say that your orientation is self and not outside influences.

[EscortInspector]

Im thinking as I go

You don't say

Yes, I’d say you’re in control of your orientation, it’s entirely about you are your perception (not that you can change it, just that it’s self). You have no control over what the other person’s gender is beyond what you can see, and you’ve no control over what they are on paper. I’d say that your orientation is self and not outside influences.

Sounds like a load of hocus pocus designed to stifle debate, would be laughable if it wasn't backed by legislation and horror stories.