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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie View Post
    I think there are three components in this newfangled nightmare of gender identity politics

    which would be Imperative to recognize , separate , and address separately .

    - sex : born male or female ( + minute number born w ambiguous genitalia = intersex ) . Can’t change it .

    - gender : how a person identifies Deep Down - a personal identity :: not changing daily as wind blows

    Those born male and identifying as male = Men .

    Those born female and identifying as female = Women .

    Those who live their life as the opposite sex , transition : Trans-men / Trans-women .


    - sexual orientation : which sex a person is attracted to . Ie. Hetero , homosexual , or bisexual .

    - sexual orientation : a person attracted to the gender representation of the other person ? Regardless

    what may be between the legs ? Or

    - sexual orientation : A person attracted to the genitalia of one or the other sex Regardless of the outward

    gender presentation of that individual ?

    Or , in many cases : men attracted to trans women Because they’re transsexual women - appear feminine

    but still have the male bits : I think these be called the ‘chasers’ .

    Or the good old boring - and Majority of humans even in this progressive Western world : Heterosexuals :

    : attracted to the opposite sex : genitalia and gender expression in harmony .



    Have a go at it .

    Without separating those issues and addressing them and Understanding what they all mean and how they

    may apply — one can have no real understanding of this convoluted madness .


    Lesbians ostracized for not wanting to have sex with ‘trans women’ who are still sporting their d*cks ,

    not wanting to have sex with men who just slapped on a wig and some lipstick .

    Effeminate gays guys coerced to transition;.

    Children indoctrinated , pornographic ‘trans’ books on the curricula of 10 year olds .

    Schoolchildren taken to Drag bars and to pornographic Pride events all in the name of ‘acceptance’

    Untangle it all .
    Excellent post! I agree with your definitions although as your alternatives show "sexual orientation" is not as straightforward as the others. I think there will be so many different orientations that a single definition is hard unless it very general, such as "the sexual type or types of individual that a person is attracted to".

    There are people who are attracted to more than one sex / gender etc. There are people attracted to woman and trans women, but only very feminine ones etc. I think there will be very many shades in between. I don't think you could create a list of "sexual orientations" where each person fits into just one category.

    The last few problematic issues that you raise, I believe, are cases where a minority of people with extreme views are getting far too much traction due to their aggressive tactics, as LDM was saying (I think).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidlifeCrisis View Post
    Excellent post! I agree with your definitions although as your alternatives show "sexual orientation" is not as straightforward as the others. I think there will be so many different orientations that a single definition is hard unless it very general, such as "the sexual type or types of individual that a person is attracted to".

    There are people who are attracted to more than one sex / gender etc. There are people attracted to woman and trans women, but only very feminine ones etc. I think there will be very many shades in between.
    I don't think you could create a list of "sexual orientations" where each person fits into just one category.

    The last few problematic issues that you raise, I believe, are cases where a minority of people with extreme views are getting far too much traction due to their aggressive tactics, as LDM was saying (I think).
    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie View Post
    Funny >>



    >>> https://youtu.be/RpAJY8ItgBw =

    How many genders Are there ? Legit like 👍

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    There are only two sexes : male and female .

    Sexual orientation :

    Attracted to opposite ? : Hetero

    Attracted to same ? : Homosexual

    Attracted to both sexes ? : Bisexual

    There’s no more variants .



    : sexual orientation :

    :: “today I’m attracted to bunnies” , “I’m Ghostself and attracted to Demi pan non-binary” : nonsense
    I do what I want. I cannot do otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie View Post
    “today I’m attracted to bunnies” , “I’m Ghostself and attracted to Demi pan non-binary” : nonsense
    They're neurodivergent; special needs.
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    I don't understand why some people are so invested in this and can't adopt the live and let live attitude.
    With climate change happening the way it is there's a good chance the planet will be very uninhabitable or underwater soon enough anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelsFan View Post
    I don't understand why some people are so invested in this and can't adopt the live and let live attitude.
    With climate change happening the way it is there's a good chance the planet will be very uninhabitable or underwater soon enough anyway.
    People are willing to make reasonable accommodations but there's some bizarre and unreasonable demands and expectations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EscortInspector View Post
    People are willing to make reasonable accommodations but there's some bizarre and unreasonable demands and expectations.
    Such as?

    I want a list lol.

    What has been demanded or expected of you to date?

    Or, are they simply being too vocal and too visual for people’s taste, and if they were let live, no one would hear from them at all or notice any demands and expectations because, really, it doesn’t affect me if my neighbour has a dick or not or if he fancies his own shadow once he doesn’t keep telling me about his shadow. His problem is that neighbour on the other side of him keeps hounding him about it, so now I have to listen it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie View Post
    There are only two sexes : male and female .

    Sexual orientation :

    Attracted to opposite ? : Hetero

    Attracted to same ? : Homosexual

    Attracted to both sexes ? : Bisexual

    There’s no more variants .



    : sexual orientation :

    :: “today I’m attracted to bunnies” , “I’m Ghostself and attracted to Demi pan non-binary” : nonsense
    I have no problem with that definition but to be useful it needs near-universal acceptance. Would most young people today like this definition? I really don't know. I have adult children and one of them would say that is too simple to describe their friend group (no bunnies afaik).
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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishSarahBarra View Post
    Such as?

    I want a list lol.
    What you want and what you get are two different things

    Quote Originally Posted by IrishSarahBarra View Post
    What has been demanded or expected of you to date?
    That I accept an ideology, namely Gender Self-ID, as being sufficent. I prefer a little more commitment from people, get the legal documents, take the hormones, have the top surgery and live like the sex you present as.

    Quote Originally Posted by IrishSarahBarra View Post
    Or, are they simply being too vocal and too visual for people’s taste, and if they were let live, no one would hear from them at all or notice any demands and expectations because, really, it doesn’t affect me if my neighbour has a dick or not or if he fancies his own shadow once he doesn’t keep telling me about his shadow. His problem is that neighbour on the other side of him keeps hounding him about it, so now I have to listen it.
    I think it's the obsession with children that scares most people. Whatever adults want to do to their own bodies is no ones concern. This is the rock that the entire movement will perish on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EscortInspector View Post
    People are willing to make reasonable accommodations but there's some bizarre and unreasonable demands and expectations.
    Also Chop me cock off? Eat me balls?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishSarahBarra View Post
    Also Chop me cock off? Eat me balls?
    Chop your cock off if you wish but you can eat your own balls
    "Remove prostitutes from human affairs, and you will unsettle everything because of lusts..."
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