If Russia wins the war

[bollocks]

We would then be dependent on gas, oil and grain. All the grain produced by the Ukraine would then be Russian. Prices could be pushed up and up and up.

[robbie9]

Time will tell.

The Ukrainians have the support of the US

[Stephanie]

We would then be dependent on gas, oil and grain. All the grain produced by the Ukraine would then be Russian. Prices could be pushed up and up and up.

Not looking too good in the East - Donbas .

Unless serious military aid is supplied , I fear the Rus will overtake and hold that region .

Already they’ve reopened Mariupol under Russian flag - now they can resupply their forces .

They’re already stealing / taking Ukraine grain , I fear not good news for any of us .



/ and if they ( Rus ) have the grain - there will be ones who buy .

/ Germany dragging heels on arms assistance , oil / gas embargo ..

[WeeJimmy]

We would then be dependent on gas, oil and grain. All the grain produced by the Ukraine would then be Russian. Prices could be pushed up and up and up.

I feel more sorry for the African countries that really depended on grain for food just to stay alive. Some are just taking advantage of a bad situation
Also you would think the mighty Germany would have had a better plan in place and not be so reliant on Russian Fuels, Lithuania were way so much smarter

[IDF2]

I think WW3 has already started.

The west is deluded to think otherwise. Has history thought us nothing?

Imposing sanctions yet still buying Russian oil and gas is financing Russia's war on the Ukraine.

Two faced or what?

But the NATO country's will find out soon enough when an emboldened Putin, and he has been emboldened! Attacks a NATO member.

This will happen.

There should be imposed a no fly zone over Ukraine immediately.

I know and I am glad to see heavy artillery starting to arrive in Ukrainian hands.

But they need tanks and lot's of them immediately to go on the offensive.

Wars are not won (despite what the media says) with defensive weapons.

[pegmyass85]

But the NATO country's will find out soon enough when an emboldened Putin, and he has been emboldened! Attacks a NATO member.

This will happen.

There should be imposed a no fly zone over Ukraine immediately.

Putin won't attach any NATO member as he knows that will be the end of him. If he was going to attack any other nation right now it would be either Finland and Sweden to prevent them from joining NATO. But even then his army isn't capable of fighting on 2 fronts.

A no fly zone over Ukraine is WW3. A no fly zone is useless unless it is enforced. To enforce it NATO jets would have to engage russian jets and land air defence systems. Soon as a NATO plane gets fired upon article 5 of the defence pact is triggered and NATO will be at full scale war with Russia.

[Stephanie]

Just a few days ago ( yesterday ? ) Rus declared that they won’t use tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine ..

Unfortunately their track record shows that whatever they Deny , is exactly what they’re intending to / or

are already doing .

They wowed they had no intention of invading Ukraine , when they ( Rus ) were building up troops .

Oops , days later they invaded .

They say they don’t kill civilians .. oops : they deliberately target civilian populations to torture

and terrorize , in an attempt to Depopulate entire regions .

This worrying times .

Full-on war is the end of them / end of us .

Of course if Putin is truly as ill as it had been speculated , what would He care !?


:: it amazes me how so many people still cry for No-fly zone , when it’s simply unimplementable

without full-on NATO v Russia war — with All that That entails .

[EscortInspector]

There will be no direct involvement from NATO or the EU beyond arms shipments, supplies and training.

[Stephanie]

But the NATO country's will find out soon enough when an emboldened Putin, and he has been emboldened! Attacks a NATO member.

This will happen.

There should be imposed a no fly zone over Ukraine immediately.

Putin won't attach any NATO member as he knows that will be the end of him. If he was going to attack any other nation right now it would be either Finland and Sweden to prevent them from joining NATO. But even then his army isn't capable of fighting on 2 fronts.

A no fly zone over Ukraine is WW3. A no fly zone is useless unless it is enforced. To enforce it NATO jets would have to engage russian jets and land air defence systems. Soon as a NATO plane gets fired upon article 5 of the defence pact is triggered and NATO will be at full scale war with Russia.

I think he would try to solidify his control over the eastern regions , then aim for Odessa

thereby Landlocking Ukraine completely , essentially killing Ukraine’s economy ( food exports ) .

If he manages to do that , Ukraine is lost ;

Then he’d move onto Moldova ..

[blackfrancis]

If. LOL

But the media keep telling me the Russians are on their last legs