Condoms

**David Feckem** · 07-03-22, 11:14

You've become an incel IDF
I wonder do all punters end up so bitter?

Originally Posted by IDF2

Who's side are you on?

Do you you even know?

Last edited by IDF2; 05-03-22 at*05:16.*Reason:*Please show evidence before you make such outlandish comments.

Originally Posted by IDF2

Has it ever happened? Yes. One in a million some demented fool.

So where's your evidence of this stat?

Yourself and that other eejit obviously know far more about working as an escort than a lady who is actually working as an escort and has been for years, here and internationally.

**EscortInspector** · 07-03-22, 11:31

The history of the condom. by H Youssef
J R Soc Med. 1993 Apr; 86(4): 226–228.

History of the condom. by M M Dooley
J R Soc Med. 1994 Jan; 87(1): 58.

History of the condom: the overlooked adverse effects. by A Gjorgov
J R Soc Med. 1994 Sep; 87(9): 570.

**Rockerman** · 07-03-22, 11:38

Very informative Inspector as usual haha. I think I'll call them sheaths from now on!

**annabel taylor** · 07-03-22, 13:34

Originally Posted by Rockerman

You have absolutely no idea what I know as you don't know me. You shouldn't be so dismissive. Yes you know the scene yourself having been involved, but to tell me I have no idea of what really happens behind the scenes and that I only see the fantasy side is way off. I've met a huge number of escorts over a number of years...I know the scene. I've taken the pleasure in talking to a number of ladies about themselves and their lives so I think I have some knowledge and experience on the matter.

When your the one sucking the dick putting the adds up get back to us

Even your little chats with escorts falls under fantasy
No punter has a clue what really happens the nasty nasty side
Because telling ya ruin the hard on...

Stop mansplaning to escorts and get a grip

You could eat in a thousand restaurants doesn't mean you could run one or have a clue

**Rockerman** · 07-03-22, 13:54

Originally Posted by annabel taylor

When your the one sucking the dick putting the adds up get back to us

Even your little chats with escorts falls under fantasy
No punter has a clue what really happens the nasty nasty side
Because telling ya ruin the hard on...

Stop mansplaning to escorts and get a grip

You could eat in a thousand restaurants doesn't mean you could run one or have a clue

Alright Annabel. I know there is a bad side and I hope you don't have to put up with that too often. Good luck to you. I've moved on from this little war of words.

**makerubyreal** · 07-03-22, 18:47

Originally Posted by Rockerman

You have absolutely no idea what I know as you don't know me. You shouldn't be so dismissive. Yes you know the scene yourself having been involved, but to tell me I have no idea of what really happens behind the scenes and that I only see the fantasy side is way off. I've met a huge number of escorts over a number of years...I know the scene. I've taken the pleasure in talking to a number of ladies about themselves and their lives so I think I have some knowledge and experience on the matter.

**gameboy** · 07-03-22, 19:11

At least they have improved over time

https://oldmooresalmanac.com/we-have...long-way-baby/

**Clubcard** · 07-03-22, 20:43

Originally Posted by makerubyreal

Only read the first one. Truly horrendous behaviour.

Would that not be classed as sexual assault?

**EscortInspector** · 07-03-22, 21:05

Originally Posted by Clubcard

Only read the first one. Truly horrendous behaviour.

Would that not be classed as sexual assault?

A man in the Uk was sentenced to 12 years for removing a condom during sex, convicted of rape. After sentencing he threatened to shoot the judge.

https://graziadaily.co.uk/life/in-th...nviction-rape/

A British Man Has Been Convicted Of Rape After Removing A Condom During Sex by GEORGIA ASPINALL
25 04 2019

On Tuesday, Lee Hogben, a 35-year-old man from Bournemouth, was sentenced to 12 years in prison after raping a woman in a hotel when he chose to remove the condom being used during sex. This comes months after a landmark case in Germany found a police offer guilty of sexual assault for the same crime, known popularly as stealthing.

The case saw a victim impact statement read aloud by the prosecuting lawyer, Jodie Mitchell, who explained that as her client was a sex worker, conditions of intercourse were agreed beforehand and advertised on her website. For her services, of which Hogben agreed to pay for two hours but left without paying after attacking her, she specifically states online that protection must be used at all times during sex.

‘Hogben went beyond what was consented to by removing the protection, which the complainant will say was a condition of intercourse,’ the court heard from Mitchell, 'She repeatedly protested, “I don't do that - please, no”. She tried to wriggle away but he told her to stop. He told her he had beaten people up and robbed people.'

After going to the police, Hogben was then arrested on suspicion of rape and forensic tests taken matched his DNA to a probability of one in a billion. After the complaint was made, he sent threatening messages to the woman, stating that he would kill her grandparents and have her ‘head smashed in’.

Denying the charge of rape, he was later found guilty of rape and two counts of assault by trial and sentenced to 12 years - then threatening the sentencing judge saying ‘I’m coming for you. You’ll get a shotgun in the face at night.’ He plead guilty to threatening to destroy property, disclosing private photographs, making malicious communication to a second female victim – of which little is known - and breaching a restraining order.

With dozens of previous convictions for harassment, the case raises concerns for how protected sex workers are from men with criminal records. Given that the practice of selling sex is still illegal, thousands of women within the industry are left unprotected, subject to an unregulated industry that forces them to choose between their safety and reporting violence to the police. Many sex workers have to work alone, putting them in more dangerous situations, to avoid arrest.

‘Hundreds of sex workers a year are arrested, raided, prosecuted and imprisoned,’ said Laura Watson, spokesperson for the English Collective of Prostitutes, ‘Brothel-keeping laws are most commonly used against women working together in premises for safety. This forces people to choose between working alone or breaking the law. At a time when unemployment, benefit cuts and sanctions, lowering wages, increased homelessness, and debt are forcing more women, particularly mothers, into prostitution, why are the police persecuting and criminalising women trying to earn a living.’

While this case shows promise for progress, in that the woman’s employment and sexual history was not used against her (a low standard, but alas progress nonetheless), it also raises concerns as to how stealthing would be convicted in cases where the intercourse was not a professional arrangement. With terms of consent agreed beforehand, and reiterated online, for formal sexual services, it’s questionable whether the same reasoning that convicted Hogben by trial would be applied where consent is not explicitly discussed beforehand, more typical for women not selling sex. We can only hope cases like this set a precedent for all women victim to this horrendous crime.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8884726.html

Man who removed condom during intercourse with sex worker jailed for rape by Adam Forrest
Lee Hogben threatened to shoot judge after he was handed 12-year prison sentence
24 April 2019

A man who removed his condom during intercourse with a sex worker that was initially consensual has been jailed for 12 years after he was found guilty of raping her.

Lee Hogben, 35, ignored his female victim’s repeated pleas to stop during the session in a Bournemouth hotel room.

The woman reported Hogben to the police after he “broke the agreed terms of consent”, leading to his arrest on suspicion of rape the following day.

Hogben threatened to shoot the sentencing judge in an outburst at the end of his three-week trial after being found guilty of rape and two counts of sexual assault.

Appearing via video link at Bournemouth Crown Court in Dorset, he told Judge Stephen Climie: “I’m coming for you. You’ll get a shotgun in the face at night.”

The court heard how the victim advertised her services on a sex work website and had specifically indicated online that all her clients must use protection.

Hogben met her at the Royal Bath Hotel in his home town of Bournemouth on 19 January, having agreed a price in advance for two hours of her services.

Prosecutor Jodie Mittell said the sex worker claimed Hogben had threatened her with violence when she resisted him after he removed the condom.

She said: “Hogben went beyond what was consented to by removing the protection, which the complainant will say was a condition of intercourse.

“She repeatedly protested, “I don’t do that – please, no”. She tried to wriggle away but he told her to stop. He told her he had beaten people up and robbed people.”

Afterwards Hogben left without paying the woman, despite spending two hours in her company.

Ms Mittell read aloud a victim impact statement from the victim. In it she said she has considered self-harm as a result of what had happened to her.

Nick Robinson, defending, said the offences occurred when Hogben was in a “heightened emotional state”.

The defendant suffered years of sexual abuse while in care, the court heard. Mr Robinson said: “His coping mechanism is driving, violence, abuse and talking to people the way he talks about himself and to himself.”

Hogben was sentenced to 12 years in prison as well as an extended licence period of six years, making the total sentence 18 years. He was also sentenced to indefinite restraining orders and a sexual harm prevention order.

A known offender with dozens of previous convictions for harassment and driving offences, Hogben pleaded guilty to threatening to destroy property, disclosing private photographs, breaching a restraining order and making a malicious communication in relation to a second female victim.

Detective Inspector Kate Lill, representing Dorset Police’s Serious Sexual Offences Team, said: “Lee Hogben is a dangerous offender who raped and sexually assaulted his frightened victim.

“I want to praise her and all the witnesses in this case for their courage in coming forward and supporting the investigation.

“We will always take reports of sexual offences extremely seriously, regardless of someone’s background or circumstances, and have a specialist team of officers who will investigate cases and ensure victims are fully supported.”

**EdwardElizabethHitler** · 09-03-22, 01:46

Originally Posted by EscortInspector

The history of the condom. by H Youssef
J R Soc Med. 1993 Apr; 86(4): 226–228.

History of the condom. by M M Dooley
J R Soc Med. 1994 Jan; 87(1): 58.

History of the condom: the overlooked adverse effects. by A Gjorgov
J R Soc Med. 1994 Sep; 87(9): 570.

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