Any Girl

[TheFalcon]

I found it striking the story she told about the guy asking "what do you do?

and she replies about her college course, but of course that was not what he was asking!

I dont know, personally I like to have some connection on a human level, I genuinely am interested in their real lives,

in saying that the majority of the girls want to keep their private lives separate.

Id like to think that it is not always a "cold transaction" as implied by this example.

I recall the girl I dated a few years ago, ultimately she confided in a few of her close friends about where she had really met me, and they all told her to end it!!

so it will be a long time before it becomes socially acceptable,

but yes their is more of a human side than is often portrayed in the media.

[Rockerman]

Where did I once mention happiness on this thread?

You dull witted blowhard.
Rocker said he thought "the vast majority of escorts on this website are definitely independent".
And I let him know I disagreed with that.
Then he jumped to trafficked, like that was the only alternative to independent.

Even at that he didn't specify willingly or unwillingly trafficked. Posters use these terms like trafficked, coerced and not independent interchangeably, and in doing so they end up posting rubbish.

All done with the utmost confidence that they are giving sound advice.

Most of the girls on this site are working for agencies. That was and is my position. I never commented on their happiness to do so.

When I did point out how much more convenient agency work would be for a foreign girl in terms of sorting advertising, and accomodation and some sort of screening and security all around the country Rocker instantly dismissed that premise.
He prefers the fairytale that girls with poor English can easily sort all that for themselves.

You're as bad as him. You read two lines of a post, and then project whatever bullshit is on your mind onto my post, regardless of the actual content.

So when you climb on your soap box again please stay on subject.
Other websites or escorts, whatever.
It's not my fault that the sting of them laughing at your hiding in the bushes spying on punters is still in your head.

I'd rather you didn't quote me or mention me again please. I have no problem having a debate or sharing an opinion, but you act like you know it all, you described posters who didn't agree with you as idiots and then when you got fed up with our back and forth you used a saying "You know what they say about wrestling pigs..." (What an obnoxious prick). I did none of this. You seem to be insufferable . Please move on and keep "Rocker" the fuck out of it you absolute knobhead.

It's time these threads fucked off. You get these lads putting up stupid fucking questions. If you are guilty about what you are doing maybe don't hook up with a bunch of women. I personally enjoy it and I guess I will continue to be a good customer. I have been for a long time.

[Sweet rabbit]

https://www.independent.ie/life/heal...-41360309.html

She writes well but I won't be reading her bleak memoir. It's not The Happy Hooker by Xaviera Hollander.

[Lighthearted2022]

It's time these threads fucked off. You get these lads putting up stupid fucking questions. .

In the same way no-one forced me to visit escorts, no-one forced you to read the thread. No need to have a go.

[Rockerman]

In the same way no-one forced me to visit escorts, no-one forced you to read the thread. No need to have a go.

Well no problem...there has just been a lot of threads like this. There will be another soon. I commented because I have had concerns myself, but these threads always turn negative because of idiots. I don't need people to agree with me, but to just say "you are wrong and you are an idiot." is a bit of a wind up. I wasn't really directing it at you...just frustrated with these threads. Good luck.

[Forceuser]

https://www.independent.ie/life/heal...-41360309.html

She writes well but I won't be reading her bleak memoir. It's not The Happy Hooker by Xaviera Hollander.

These types of stories always leave me feeling conflicted

i'm sorry she feels like that or has met some pricks like the guy in the story but on the other hand i've
never acted like an asshole to any of the escorts i've met
or walked up to a random woman,thrown money at her and demanded sex.
i've only ever answered an advertisement.

am i meant to feel responsible for her placing the ad or deciding to do sex work?

am i meant to assume that every escort that says that the choice was hers/that she
enjoys the freedom of sex work work or legitimately finds it empowering and is glad for the visit
is lying??

hypothetically,how would i know Mia Dörings truth if she didn't even know it herself at the time?

[AnimalSpirit]

I believe she is engaging in victim mentality. Everything that goes wrong is the fault of some bad experience you had long ago, every bit of laziness or giving into vices is acceptable due to how you were a victim long ago. A victim complex can destroy your life if you let it - if she ever was any sort of victim in the first place which I doubt.

She feels "violated" when a man talks in a way she perceives as "authoritatian". She says "Dogs and horses are more valuable to this country than the lives of women and girls," - I don't think that's true for anyone and I think the Irish Independent are the ones performing a disservice to her by enabling this sort of stuff.

Going by the article it's all garbage to sell books. I thought it would be much worse in terms of things that actually occured to her. Many ladies do indeed undergo far worse in prostitution and are harmed. I had nothing to do with that and neither did you.

[David Feckem]

Selectively removing my posts without so much as the courtesy of a pm to explain why. You would have me as cowed and ignorant as the rest of the slack jawed yokels.

[IDF2]

Sorry to bring up a serious topic on a Sunday, but I've been reading articles about Mia Christinas book in all the papers this weekend. I’m very recent to the scene and (without wanting to bore people with the usual sob-story) joined to try to get that feeling of engagement that is not at home – theres only so many things you can do for so many years years before you have to accept this is your sex life now – 10 mins every second Saturday night but don’t expect any reciprocal touching.

I’ve been lucky with one escort in particular i've visited a few times now who creates such a realistic illusion that I sometimes forget its a business arrangement for her and that I’m not having an affair. However then I read these articles and you can’t help but have even more doubts than already existed – sentences such as ‘everyone knows the majority of girls working are coerced’ or that all girls are there because of sexual trauma in their lives earlier. It does make you pause and seriously consider that you should cease visits and find another outlet for relief.

How does somebody know if a girl is coerced or forced to work? And from the girls side, do you find that guys even care? I've chatted with that one escort about it and she seems happy with her choice, but still.........

From my point of view. I had already decided to give younger girls a miss for other reasons, especially those with poor english, but on reflection I guess I always knew the possibility that some girls are there against their will and I’m just trying to assuage my guilt at entering the world in the first place. Its less likely that a late 20’s or 30’s year old is being forced to work, but then its not beyond the bounds of possibility either.

What do you say to somebody whos looking at this site for the first time – how you do defend your industry against these claims – or is there any defence?

Again, sorry for bringing down the mood!

The feminazis belief that men aren't necessary and we should all kill ourselves is happening and is a reality.

Men are desperate for human contact.

All men are cunts apparently after that teacher got killed. But who is educating and influencing young boys?

I don't know of any male teachers nowadays. Boy's are totally under the influence of women until they turn up for work not knowing how to interact with men, fact.