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    Quote Originally Posted by Dub Lad View Post
    Thanks for this military tactical insight, Dr Epidemologist.

    Can you answer me this, if everything is so meticulous, how come he didn't count on Mud Season in Ukraine?

    Tony you talk so much waffle you haven't a clue, you pretend to know, but really you have no idea.
    Ffs ladooo what did this guy ever do to you apart from a differing opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westsidex View Post
    Ffs ladooo what did this guy ever do to you apart from a differing opinion?

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    Don't give me that "opinion" excuse, Tony hasn't a clue. Spreading awful disinformation when it comes to vaccines, now of course he is a Russian Propagandist, surprise, surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dub Lad View Post
    Don't give me that "opinion" excuse, Tony hasn't a clue. Spreading awful disinformation when it comes to vaccines, now of course he is a Russian Propagandist, surprise, surprise.
    He is actually OK ladooo. Covid was and still is very personal and depends on ppls circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JennyIrish View Post
    I've no doubt that if NATO intervene he will use nuclear attacks, Russian diplomats have said he wont hesitate. It's like being stuck between a rock and a hard place, watching the destruction of this poor country or if other countries intervene it could be catastrophic for several other countries. I'm praying one of his own will take him out.
    They should call his bluff and tell him press the button. Reminds of these ppl that tell you "if you do that again, I'll burst your head". The first time always hurts the most, so why wait. Same with this. Press the button Mrs Putin. Ppl need to remember that the yanks have actually done it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlespike View Post
    I think the only way Putin's madness is going to be stopped is by the ordanry Russian people if they don't stop it no one else can.
    He's already demonstrated that he's willing to use nuclear weapons if he's put in a corner
    Or China. If China push against Putin, its all over for him.

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    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...es-2022-03-02/

    Factbox: The chain of command for potential Russian nuclear strikes by Crispian Balmer
    March 2 2022

    Russian President Vladimir Putin said at the weekend that his nation's nuclear forces should be put on high alert, raising fears that Russia's invasion of Ukraine could lead to nuclear escalation.

    Here is how Russia's chain of command would work in the event of a nuclear weapon launch.

    WHO DECIDES TO LAUNCH RUSSIAN NUCLEAR WEAPONS?

    A 2020 document called "Basic Principles of State Policy of the Russian Federation on Nuclear Deterrence" says the Russian president takes the decision to use nuclear weapons.

    A small briefcase, known as the Cheget, is kept close to the president at all times, linking him to the command and control network of Russia's strategic nuclear forces. The Cheget does not contain a nuclear launch button but rather transmits launch orders to the central military command - the General Staff.

    IF PUTIN GIVES THE NUCLEAR ORDER, WHAT HAPPENS?

    The Russian General Staff has access to the launch codes and has two methods of launching nuclear warheads. It can send authorisation codes to individual weapons commanders, who would then execute the launch procedures. There is also a back-up system, known as Perimetr, which allows the General Staff to directly initiate the launch of land-based missiles, bypassing all the immediate command posts.

    DID PUTIN'S 'HIGH ALERT' ORDER MAKE A LAUNCH MORE LIKELY?

    Putin said at the weekend that the nation's nuclear forces should be put on high alert. The following day, Russia's defence ministry announced that its nuclear missile forces had been placed on "enhanced" combat duty. read more

    The phrase enhanced, or special, combat duty does not appear in Russia's nuclear doctrine, leaving military experts puzzled over what it might mean. read more

    Pavel Podvig, a senior researcher at the United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research in Geneva, said on Twitter that the order might have activated Russia's nuclear command and control system, essentially opening communication channels for any eventual launch order. Alternatively, he said it might just mean the Russians added staff to their nuclear facilities.

    DO THE RUSSIANS HAVE RULES ON NUCLEAR LAUNCHES?

    The 2020 doctrine presents four scenarios which might justify the use of Russian nuclear weapons:

    -- the use of nuclear weapons or weapons of mass destruction against Russia or its allies;

    -- data showing the launch of ballistic missiles aimed at Russia or its allies;

    -- an attack on critical government or military sites that would undermine the country's nuclear forces response actions;

    -- the use of conventional weapons against Russia "when the very existence of the state is in jeopardy".

    WHAT NUCLEAR CAPABILITIES DOES RUSSIA HAVE?

    The Federation of American Scientists estimates that Russia has 5,977 nuclear warheads, more than any other country. Of these, 1,588 are deployed and ready for use. Its missiles can be fired from the land, by submarines and by airplanes. Putin oversaw a coordinated test of Russia's nuclear forces on Feb. 19 shortly before ordering troops into Ukraine. read more

    HAS RUSSIA EVER USED A NUCLEAR WEAPON IN WAR?

    No. To date, the only use of nuclear weapons during conflict was the atomic bombs dropped on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki by the United States in 1945, at the end of World War Two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westsidex View Post
    Ffs ladooo what did this guy ever do to you apart from a differing opinion?

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    He has been unpleasant in many of his recent posts.
    Obviously an unhappy chap who wants to vent.
    Hopefully being here helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyB View Post
    That's exactly it.
    The best minds in Russia have been planning this for months if not years.
    Every move has been calculated, every permutation, every eventuality has been thought through.
    There is no way he doesn't know exactly what he's doing and is five steps ahead of everything that has happened or might happen.
    so the best minds in Russia have been planning for months but they never thought to
    give their advance force maps of Ukraine or to have enough fuel to get there! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forceuser View Post
    so the best minds in Russia have been planning for months but they never thought to
    give their advance force maps of Ukraine or to have enough fuel to get there! lol

    You are assuming that's true.

    But even if it is, you wouldn't haphazardly organise an invasion if you were Putin.
    So why do you think he's stupid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westsidex View Post
    They should call his bluff and tell him press the button. Reminds of these ppl that tell you "if you do that again, I'll burst your head". The first time always hurts the most, so why wait. Same with this. Press the button Mrs Putin. Ppl need to remember that the yanks have actually done it.

    Westside
    The only thing is, he just might do it.

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