Ukraine

[Forceuser]

Reports of imminent Ukrainian encirclement of the critical rail hub city of Lyman

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=41bff38c2dcd

[Stephanie]

Surrounded by body bags - Putin's 'war crimes' only strengthen Ukraine's resolve

https://news.sky.com/story/surrounde...solve-12708697

On the very day he announced the unlawful annexation of 4 regions of Ukraine ,

a heretofore Russian-authorized Ukrainian civilian humanitarian convoy delivering aid

to Russian occupied area was bombed : innocent civilians , children lost .

How much Longer !?

[Stephanie]

Moment Russia annexes four regions

https://news.sky.com/video/share-12708388



And while they did That , a routine humanitarian convoy was bombed by Russian forces .

[Stephanie]

NordStream pipeline apparently sabotaged :

Gas bubbles a km wide in Baltic Sea off the coast of Denmark .

Denmark has banned shipping in the area and declared it no-fly zone

This is the pipeline that was supplying Germany w Russian natural gas .





Now alarm over other pipelines also being targeted

: would anyone venture an educated guess as to who might have done this ?

And Why ?






I think I know …

[fingermouse]

All makes my trip there this week very interesting

[UnFulfilledScott]

: would anyone venture an educated guess as to who might have done this ?

And Why ?






I think I know …

Who : JSOC.

Why : Really?

[pegmyass85]

: would anyone venture an educated guess as to who might have done this ?

And Why ?






I think I know …

Here's what's doing the rounds on the internet.
Russia. So they don't have to honour contracts to deliver gas.

US. Biden said he'd end the nord gas lines if Russia invaded. Suddenly nord lines are ended. US are now upping there shipping of LNG to Europe. Billions more to be made..

Norway. It's just opened its new pipe line to supply Europe. Now it has a monopoly on supplying direct gas to main land Europe.

Ukraine. To prevent the EU buying Russian gas and financing the war.

Lots of others crazy example but they are the main ones.

Truth is we'll never know.

[Forceuser]

michael clarke on sky news claimed Russia blew up its own pipeline. This is where I lost respect for him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agWlhvp4WIU

He actually makes a good point i hadn't considered.
a way of letting Europe know that their own pipelines are vulnerable and could
be hit if they choose to do so without actually doing that
there was no gas coming through either pipeline to europe anyhow so their being damaged
is of no real consequence to russia

[Forceuser]

[pegmyass85]

He actually makes a good point i hadn't considered.
a way of letting Europe know that their own pipelines are vulnerable and could
be hit if they choose to do so without actually doing that
there was no gas coming through either pipeline to europe anyhow so their being damaged
is of no real consequence to russia

It's a big consequence to Russia. They were using pipeline as a weapon against Europe. They've turned it off and back on several times already to prove to Europe and in particular Germany that it still needs Russian gas. If we get a bad winter then Europe will suffer greatly due by lack of supply. This is known and that is why gas wasn't a major part of the sanctions against Russia. Now that weapon and all the finances the gas brought in is gone.
As for the excuse of showing Europe it's pipelines are vulnerable and could be hit sorry no not likely any hits that damage a European pipeline will be classed as an attack on Europe's energy infrastructure and thus an attack on a Europe itself which is attack on NATO thus leading to war. That's the thing Putin would want because that means NATO goes to war and if it doesn't go to war it'll make NATO look weak that they can't defend it's own infrastructure and with the Chinese watching on NATO and in particular the US don't want to look weak.