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    How secure is WhatsApp. Its says that messages are "end to end encrypted " but what does that actually mean. Remember when WhatsApp went down a few weeks ago and there was talks of some sort of cyber attack, I was shitting myself that my dickpics would be sold to the highest bidder.

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    I don’t trust anything Mark Zuckerberg owns so I wouldn’t put anything super private in there, but realistically I am not interesting enough for anyone to care about my convos

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    End 2 end encryption means that when you send a message, it's scrambled and encrypted through every system your using until its received by the person you sent it too, at the other end, where its decrypted and unscrambled.

    It's not a completely unbreakable system but it would be very very very hard to decrypt something you dont have the right key for. In theory even Big Mark couldn't look at your dick pics once they are encrypted

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    I have written apps for iPhone and Android, including ones to intercept messages. I would not consider anything on a phone to be securely private, and I don't trust any of the big companies to have the consumer's best interests at heart. We have all seen lots of "leaks" between apps where something you are discussing or searching for crops up in ads that are sent to you.

    That is why I keep a punting phone, entirely separate, and not used for anything else, especially social media. That way, if such leaks occur they do no harm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tex Mex View Post
    End 2 end encryption means that when you send a message, it's scrambled and encrypted through every system your using until its received by the person you sent it too, at the other end, where its decrypted and unscrambled.

    It's not a completely unbreakable system but it would be very very very hard to decrypt something you dont have the right key for. In theory even Big Mark couldn't look at your dick pics once they are encrypted
    That sounds something like what the IT dept in the HSE would say upto 6 months ago.
    I'm sure all this info is sitting on a server in a dark room somewhere. Think I'll refrain from the sending of dickpics until we go back to 24hr photo booths and good old postal service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidlifeCrisis View Post
    I have written apps for iPhone and Android, including ones to intercept messages. I would not consider anything on a phone to be securely private, and I don't trust any of the big companies to have the consumer's best interests at heart. We have all seen lots of "leaks" between apps where something you are discussing or searching for crops up in ads that are sent to you.

    That is why I keep a punting phone, entirely separate, and not used for anything else, especially social media. That way, if such leaks occur they do no harm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidlifeCrisis View Post
    I have written apps for iPhone and Android, including ones to intercept messages. I would not consider anything on a phone to be securely private, and I don't trust any of the big companies to have the consumer's best interests at heart. We have all seen lots of "leaks" between apps where something you are discussing or searching for crops up in ads that are sent to you.

    That is why I keep a punting phone, entirely separate, and not used for anything else, especially social media. That way, if such leaks occur they do no harm.
    First of all, I don't believe you've worked on any apps that intercepted anything, except maybe the domino's pizza delivery van

    Second, what your describing as leaking, is when 1 compamg, let's say Google, sees you type into your Gmail "my car stereo was robbed" and then it starts showing you adverts for car stereos. It does not compromise the integrity of the message you are sending or of the encryption, your message is secure until it lands in the receivers inbox. Google just recognised that you typed car stereo and if youve allowed Google to share that information with 3rd parties that's another story.

    But regardless of the above, noone iN GOOGLE can read the content of that email but there might be a check mark on your account saying 'advertise car stereos'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clubcard View Post
    That sounds something like what the IT dept in the HSE would say upto 6 months ago.
    I'm sure all this info is sitting on a server in a dark room somewhere. Think I'll refrain from the sending of dickpics until we go back to 24hr photo booths and good old postal service.
    Well it was Encryption that got The HSE in so much trouble, but the opposite way u might think, someone sent a bit of code that would Encrypt the whole computer it effected and stopped the HSE from accessing, the hacker used encrptyion and only he/she/them had the key

    What would have prevented this was regular backups and a decent HSE encryption system of their own

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    Try telegram but don't download it from the playstore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clubcard View Post
    That sounds something like what the IT dept in the HSE would say upto 6 months ago.
    I'm sure all this info is sitting on a server in a dark room somewhere. Think I'll refrain from the sending of dickpics until we go back to 24hr photo booths and good old postal service.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tex Mex View Post
    Well it was Encryption that got The HSE in so much trouble, but the opposite way u might think, someone sent a bit of code that would Encrypt the whole computer it effected and stopped the HSE from accessing, the hacker used encrptyion and only he/she/them had the key

    What would have prevented this was regular backups and a decent HSE encryption system of their own
    They were using old computers running out of date operating systems that could not be updated to prevent current cyber threats.

    This was due to lack of investment by the HSE in its IT systems -

    Its arguable whether the cost of restoring the HSE IT systems after recent attack was more than the money saved by not keeping the HSE IT infrastructure up to date.

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