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    Sex work needs to be recognised as work

    The article dated 26th July 2021 by AOIFE BLOOM of SWAI can be found here

    https://www.echolive.ie/corkviews/arid-40346300.html

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    same old stuff from SWAI that makes no sense and getting no where, its got to the stage no one listening to them anymore and the opposite sides gaining strength from their actions
    Yes it needs to be recognised as work but do it the correct way. Put the true reasons and facts to the people to see as you only get once chance

    How can SWAI talk about the Nordic Model in Ireland when it never got off the ground really, it never been enforced properly, what exactly does SWAI want to see happen

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    We need to see a safer environment for all independent sex workers but at the same time forced and innocent girls need to be protected.
    No point in going on at the governments as they don't care and its up to the sex workers and more so the clients to make changes and make it a somewhat better and safer place for everyone involved.
    Last edited by Janko; 04-08-21 at 14:00.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janko View Post
    same old stuff from SWAI that makes no sense and getting no where, its got to the stage no one listening to them anymore and the opposite sides gaining strength from their actions
    Yes it needs to be recognised as work but do it the correct way. Put the true reasons and facts to the people to see as you only get once chance

    How can SWAI talk about the Nordic Model in Ireland when it never got off the ground really, it never been enforced properly, what exactly does SWAI want to see happen
    Oh Wise One - Have you actually read the article

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmango View Post
    Oh Wise One - Have you actually read the article
    Always read it but nothing different so tell us then how you see the Nordic Model, its not even being properly enforced so it never got off the ground in Ireland so how can one say this?.
    Once you dismiss Trafficking and say its not a big issue, you are not on unstable ground and SWAI needs to face some real issues in order to get some support which they are gradually losing all the time,
    Independent Escorts who screen and do their business properly are doing well in Ireland with not much hassle from police and others and this is the route SWAI should be concentrating on, what the point in talking about a Nordic law that virtually never really got off the ground and if it does then they'll surely know all about it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janko View Post
    We need to see a safer environment for all independent sex workers but at the same time forced and innocent girls need to be protected.
    No point in going on at the governments as they don't care and its up to the sex workers and more so the clients to make changes and make it a somewhat better and safer place for everyone involved.
    I agree , but other than reporting suspicions to the Gardaí we do not have any platform to improve the situation. Our suspicions , when we voice them here , are treated as speculation and deleted, because our posts could affect the website's business. One example if I am allowed post it , is a certain ethnic group of service providers who have very similar ads and rates and do not allow reviews. We all know that those who want this industry shut down are constantly trawling through this site. If many of us punters are avoiding this ethnic group ( who we love ) because of our concerns then maybe the owners of this site should look more closely at who is funding certain ads. It is in all our interests. We desperately need the services of these great ladies for our mental well being .

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    Quote Originally Posted by claremorris View Post
    I agree , but other than reporting suspicions to the Gardaí we do not have any platform to improve the situation. Our suspicions , when we voice them here , are treated as speculation and deleted, because our posts could affect the website's business. One example if I am allowed post it , is a certain ethnic group of service providers who have very similar ads and rates and do not allow reviews. We all know that those who want this industry shut down are constantly trawling through this site. If many of us punters are avoiding this ethnic group ( who we love ) because of our concerns then maybe the owners of this site should look more closely at who is funding certain ads. It is in all our interests. We desperately need the services of these great ladies for our mental well being .
    I was not really talking about Escort Ireland as they are only an advertising company, yes I know maybe more could be done from many but realistically we know it won't happen, so who's left?, who's now in the firing line? Yes, its the clients responsibility for what happens outside of here and up to them to make the correct call, to do their research of an sex worker, location as in brothels etc. Its the clients responsibility here so no point blaming the sex workers or police or anyone else when things don't end well
    We can't blame companies and we certainly know that the Governments don't care about any of us, they make out they do but really they don't. They will keep bringing in legislation that suits their gains and helps them become popular and you can't rely on these groups either as all have an agenda and you won't hear the truth.
    Trafficking is out of control and not been tackled properly but its out of control in Europe too and we have criminal thugs from EE, yes from my own country too and causing injury to sex workers who decide to share or step onto their patch where they have also girls working and the outcome as we see can be devastating, many of these attacks are not even reported and no one should have to suffer such ordeals or live in fear.
    How does the police tackle these Criminals, Traffickers, they set up more special units but really they don't have the man power and target clients instead with various stings to make the statistics look bit better and its has increased but its still dismal so the only ones that are going to change things here for the better are the clients themselves and the escorts which I am glad to see have taken steps in working alone, screening etc so that they are safe from these criminals and at same time protecting their clientele, so at this present moment the client is safe also so its a step in the right direction for both parties and together gradually freezing the Traffickers out

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmango View Post
    Sex work needs to be recognised as work

    The article dated 26th July 2021 by AOIFE BLOOM of SWAI can be found here

    https://www.echolive.ie/corkviews/arid-40346300.html
    Absolutely. It's the biggest disgrace ever that trade unions don't recognise sex workers.

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    Make it classified as a job and make them pay big taxes, not a hope do escorts want this. Its a high cash turnover, no chance they'd wanna pay pay taxes. Some would make more cash per week than footballers in say Scotland or English league 1 or 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandysman85 View Post
    Make it classified as a job and make them pay big taxes, not a hope do escorts want this. Its a high cash turnover, no chance they'd wanna pay pay taxes. Some would make more cash per week than footballers in say Scotland or English league 1 or 2
    Sure paying taxes is a huge pain in the ass and would hurt. But I think most sex workers would agree that being recognised as a legitimate worker is to something strive for. As long as the state does not penalize them for the work they are doing or make it imposable for them to move on from sex work and stigmatise them forever, like some sates with legalized sex work have done.
    Last edited by IDF2; 06-08-21 at 10:24.

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