G. Floyd case : Derek Chauvin

[TheSavannah]

I believe that generalisations always fall into error. You have also made it clear that you are not doing so (although it might seem so).
I think the point is what we as individual citizens can do to end a problem of hatred that has been going on for many, many years.

I think the ideal is to stop thinking that the black community exists as an element that differentiates it from other communities that are not black.
I think it is everyone's problem.

What do you think?

[mrcumalot]

There is a culture within the black community of the young men disregarding their responsibilities when they get a young black woman pregnant, and leaving her for another woman. And to an extent the culture is supported by young black women boasting of stealing yo' man and where yo' man at. It might not be politically correct to say this, but it is true.
Comedians such as Chris Rock and Dave Chapelle and others have whole routines based on this type of prevalent behaviour.


It depends what type of assistance you are advocating. Materially it is more advantageous at the moment for the single Mother to claim welfare. You could argue that this encourages the culture of households with no father figure.

Personal accountability and responsibility is about sticking around and help raising your child so that at 14 years of age he doesn't join a gang and become a gang banger because he wants to help his mother put food on the table and buy nice clothes for himself.
Drug dealers and gang bangers raising kids instead of the kids fathers. Teaching them how to step across each other to climb the drug trade ladder.



If the black community don't begin to treat each other with respect, their women, their children, then the words of BLM seem hollow when other communities hear them.

Of course this isn't every black family, but it is the pervading culture within the community. Defunding the police won't change that.

This is in no way hate speech or racist. It's a realistic look at one of the big social problems in African American communities.

I do realise the irony of my point on this an escort website. I am a single guy if that makes any difference.

Did you learn all these racist stereotypes from Chris Rock comedy routines? Or perhaps in your own 'hood in Ballygobackwards?

[gonzo76]

Did you learn all these racist stereotypes from Chris Rock comedy routines? Or perhaps in your own 'hood in Ballygobackwards?

I think it was when the fresh Prince had to move to bel Air

[gonzo76]

There is a culture within the black community of the young men disregarding their responsibilities when they get a young black woman pregnant, and leaving her for another woman. And to an extent the culture is supported by young black women boasting of stealing yo' man and where yo' man at. It might not be politically correct to say this, but it is true.
Comedians such as Chris Rock and Dave Chapelle and others have whole routines based on this type of prevalent behaviour.


It depends what type of assistance you are advocating. Materially it is more advantageous at the moment for the single Mother to claim welfare. You could argue that this encourages the culture of households with no father figure.

Personal accountability and responsibility is about sticking around and help raising your child so that at 14 years of age he doesn't join a gang and become a gang banger because he wants to help his mother put food on the table and buy nice clothes for himself.
Drug dealers and gang bangers raising kids instead of the kids fathers. Teaching them how to step across each other to climb the drug trade ladder.



If the black community don't begin to treat each other with respect, their women, their children, then the words of BLM seem hollow when other communities hear them.

Of course this isn't every black family, but it is the pervading culture within the community. Defunding the police won't change that.

This is in no way hate speech or racist. It's a realistic look at one of the big social problems in African American communities.

I do realise the irony of my point on this an escort website. I am a single guy if that makes any difference.

Maybe looking at the issue as societal and not within a subset of groupings might help. How about (sex) education, access to birth control and family planning, as well as an accessible healthcare system. An employment structure that allows people to earn a fair wage for a day's work.

That poverty cycle is self perpetuating and people of color in the US are caught in the cycle because of the broken system, not just because of the color of their skin.

A single mother working two jobs to make ends meet - likely the kids get into trouble early, don't finish school, becomes a circle.

Recognising these issues and putting assistance programs as a hand up instead of a hand out is a good investment for a country. The return on investment would be significant.

[Meursault]

There is a culture within the black community of the young men disregarding their responsibilities when they get a young black woman pregnant, and leaving her for another woman. And to an extent the culture is supported by young black women boasting of stealing yo' man and where yo' man at. It might not be politically correct to say this, but it is true.
Comedians such as Chris Rock and Dave Chapelle and others have whole routines based on this type of prevalent behaviour.


It depends what type of assistance you are advocating. Materially it is more advantageous at the moment for the single Mother to claim welfare. You could argue that this encourages the culture of households with no father figure.

Personal accountability and responsibility is about sticking around and help raising your child so that at 14 years of age he doesn't join a gang and become a gang banger because he wants to help his mother put food on the table and buy nice clothes for himself.
Drug dealers and gang bangers raising kids instead of the kids fathers. Teaching them how to step across each other to climb the drug trade ladder.



If the black community don't begin to treat each other with respect, their women, their children, then the words of BLM seem hollow when other communities hear them.

Of course this isn't every black family, but it is the pervading culture within the community. Defunding the police won't change that.

This is in no way hate speech or racist. It's a realistic look at one of the big social problems in African American communities.

I do realise the irony of my point on this an escort website. I am a single guy if that makes any difference.

It has nothing to do with the colour of their skin nor their biology.

They basically grow up in a system that is rigged against them. It is sociological. Even noam chomskey said this.

You give african americans a chance and they would achieve much more. But like i say, the game is rigged against them.

[gonzo76]

what I mean tom is not give these people the time of day and you won't change those people as its too deep rooted inside them

Did we ignore the drink drivers in this country and let them to just kill each other off?

Society moved on. "Two will do" would never be allowed these days, it's "never ever drink and drive - not even one".

Drink driving is now so loathed culturally that people would never consider it acceptable to drink and drive.

You push for the society you want, don't passively sit by hoping it will wander past.

Racism must be ostracized, stamped out where it rears it's head, otherwise it is passively accepted and nothing changes.

[AngelsFan]

Maybe looking at the issue as societal and not within a subset of groupings might help. How about (sex) education, access to birth control and family planning, as well as an accessible healthcare system. An employment structure that allows people to earn a fair wage for a day's work.

That poverty cycle is self perpetuating and people of color in the US are caught in the cycle because of the broken system, not just because of the color of their skin.

A single mother working two jobs to make ends meet - likely the kids get into trouble early, don't finish school, becomes a circle.

Recognising these issues and putting assistance programs as a hand up instead of a hand out is a good investment for a country. The return on investment would be significant.

I’m reluctant to blame any of it on a lack of sex education. Do you believe young black men don’t know how a condom works or can’t afford one? Rather they are less concerned with the consequences of getting a girl pregnant because it is so commonplace within the community to walk away from the responsibility. I can’t afford to raise a child is not as high a consideration as it should be, and bareback feels better.
Of course poverty is a massive hurdle to overcome and every effort should be made to make society more equal.

But the Hispanic community face the same problems and treat each other with far more respect in my experience. They work hard, stick together and are collectively raising the standard of living within their community.
The same just cannot be said of the black community which glamorizes gang culture and hip hop lifestyle ; guns as accessories, women are bitches and hoes, young black men are disposable and being a good father and provider for a family is not held in much regard.

In the same theme of community accountability and responsibility it is worth looking at the uptake of the free vaccine by race within the U.S.A. and at which communities were most pro-active. Shuttle buses were run from underprivilleged communities to vaccination centres and every effort was made to make vaccines available to every individual. But look at the statistics.

AngelsFan, do you have Netflix?

I do have Netflix, and I welcome any recommendations you have to educate me. But I’m speaking from experience, not a life spent in ballygobackways as the chuckle brother suggested.



Savannah has concerns that my posts may be construed as racist, I believe they just add balance to the argument, but I have no wish to viewed as a racist so that ends my contribution here.

[gonzo76]

I’m reluctant to blame any of it on a lack of sex education. Do you believe young black men don’t know how a condom works or can’t afford one? Rather they are less concerned with the consequences of getting a girl pregnant because it is so commonplace within the community to walk away from the responsibility. I can’t afford to raise a child is not as high a consideration as it should be, and bareback feels better.
Of course poverty is a massive hurdle to overcome and every effort should be made to make society more equal.

But the Hispanic community face the same problems and treat each other with far more respect in my experience. They work hard, stick together and are collectively raising the standard of living within their community.
The same just cannot be said of the black community which glamorizes gang culture and hip hop lifestyle ; guns as accessories, women are bitches and hoes, young black men are disposable and being a good father and provider for a family is not held in much regard.

In the same theme of community accountability and responsibility it is worth looking at the uptake of the free vaccine by race within the U.S.A. and at which communities were most pro-active. Shuttle buses were run from underprivilleged communities to vaccination centres and every effort was made to make vaccines available to every individual. But look at the statistics.



I do have Netflix, and I welcome any recommendations you have to educate me. But I’m speaking from experience, not a life spent in ballygobackways as the chuckle brother suggested.



Savannah has concerns that my posts may be construed as racist, I believe they just add balance to the argument, but I have no wish to viewed as a racist so that ends my contribution here.

Well I did say (sex) education - meaning education as well as sex education.

Without going into your massive broad generalisations, that might be read as racism, might not, but, you know.... Anyway as regards sex education if it ended with what a condom is I'd be very worried. And if you knew any middle school teachers you might hear some very interesting stories and questions that come from the kids.

But largely, the right wing policies in many states in the USA make abortion a virtual impossibility, thereby forcing the issue and perpetuating the circle. And so I wonder, profile wise, which communities have access to these services?

[mrcumalot]

I’m reluctant to blame any of it on a lack of sex education. Do you believe young black men don’t know how a condom works or can’t afford one? Rather they are less concerned with the consequences of getting a girl pregnant because it is so commonplace within the community to walk away from the responsibility. I can’t afford to raise a child is not as high a consideration as it should be, and bareback feels better.
Of course poverty is a massive hurdle to overcome and every effort should be made to make society more equal.

But the Hispanic community face the same problems and treat each other with far more respect in my experience. They work hard, stick together and are collectively raising the standard of living within their community.
The same just cannot be said of the black community which glamorizes gang culture and hip hop lifestyle ; guns as accessories, women are bitches and hoes, young black men are disposable and being a good father and provider for a family is not held in much regard.

In the same theme of community accountability and responsibility it is worth looking at the uptake of the free vaccine by race within the U.S.A. and at which communities were most pro-active. Shuttle buses were run from underprivilleged communities to vaccination centres and every effort was made to make vaccines available to every individual. But look at the statistics.



I do have Netflix, and I welcome any recommendations you have to educate me. But I’m speaking from experience, not a life spent in ballygobackways as the chuckle brother suggested.



Savannah has concerns that my posts may be construed as racist, I believe they just add balance to the argument, but I have no wish to viewed as a racist so that ends my contribution here.

God forbid, that your depiction of black males as feckless, irresponsible, drug dealing gangbangers "may be construed as racist!

[WeeJimmy]

Did we ignore the drink drivers in this country and let them to just kill each other off?

Society moved on. "Two will do" would never be allowed these days, it's "never ever drink and drive - not even one".

Drink driving is now so loathed culturally that people would never consider it acceptable to drink and drive.

You push for the society you want, don't passively sit by hoping it will wander past.

Racism must be ostracized, stamped out where it rears it's head, otherwise it is passively accepted and nothing changes.

its not the same
Yee are a mad bunch over there in Ireland