Does anybody know what happened to those "talked to" by Gardai during Operation Quest

[harrym]

Also am I right in saying that the guards are using some sort of tracking technology that logs phone records of people that call escorts? So they basically store this information on a database to incriminate people? I remember reading about that not too long ago but I'm not sure whether it's true....

[MrCreen]

I wasn't questioned and I'm not sure whether you can just remain silent in front of a garda who is questioning you about what you were doing inside of the apartment you just came out of? Aren't you legally obliged to tell the truth if a garda approaches you after coming out of an apartment complex of a known escort?

Your not. Trust me.

[MrCreen]

There was two of them in an unmasked car both late twenties/early thirties.
They asked for Id, I gave them my driving license , they said they had observed me leaving a certain address , I Said that I was looking at a job down the road ,they said they knew where I had visited and asked about the girl herself and did she seem upset like she was being trafficked , I said no .
As I said ,they told me I was in no trouble checked my tax and insurance and sent me on my way.
In retrospect I think I was lucky , they seemed like men of the world so no harm,

I had a similar experience. A location was being watched by Gardaí and I was approached by two ban Gard's who followed me to my vehicle checked the front window screen and sent me on my way ..

[MrCreen]

2 ladies sharing should not be classed as a brothel...

Given that a duo is a standard request, you are correct

[Dom Dunn]

When I was stopped by an Garda they told me I wasn’t in trouble but they wanted to make sure the girl wasn’t being trafficked , they told me I wasn’t breaking the law , ( this was after the new laws were brought in , so they were wrong ) it’s difficult not to say anything as they have seen you coming from an apartment,
My advise is to say as little as you can and deny everything

Best approach in most circumstances. If you admit you have paid for sexual services you can of course be easily convicted there was a case some time back. Many lines have been written over the years on this topic on this forum but the prevailing view is that this crime is not an easy one to police.
Unless incriminating statements are made or you are literally caught in the act during a police raid. The DPP will be very unlikely to bring a case before the courts without at least one piece of substantial evidence. At the end of the day the law permits prosecution of the offence of paying for sexual services and anybody who visits escorts is most likely breaking this law and is subject to prosecution. Much advice has been given on how best to minimise the risk of being hauled before the courts and most individuals would be wise to heed it.

[MrCreen]

Best approach in most circumstances. If you admit you have paid for sexual services you can of course be easily convicted there was a case some time back. Many lines have been written over the years on this topic on this forum but the prevailing view is that this crime is not an easy one to police.
Unless incriminating statements are made or you are literally caught in the act during a police raid. The DPP will be very unlikely to bring a case before the courts without at least one piece of substantial evidence. At the end of the day the law permits prosecution of the offence of paying for sexual services and anybody who visits escorts is most likely breaking this law and is subject to prosecution. Much advice has been given on how best to minimise the risk of being hauled before the courts and most individuals would be wise to heed it.

Would it be prudent to punt only at shift handover times for the filth? Get a nice hour in there

[harrym]

What's the actual likelihood of getting a formal conviction if you're caught though? If you have no previous convictions is it possible that the judge could adjourn the case? Since it's a very recent law I would imagine there would be some sort of leniency within reason? People's lives and careers could come to an end with a formal conviction. It would take over 7 years for a formal conviction to be spent/expunged from your record.

[EscortInspector]

What's the actual likelihood of getting a formal conviction if you're caught though? If you have no previous convictions is it possible that the judge could adjourn the case? Since it's a very recent law I would imagine there would be some sort of leniency within reason? People's lives and careers could come to an end with a formal conviction. It would take over 7 years for a formal conviction to be spent/expunged from your record.

Depends on the judge and the headlines at the time. Some judges want to "send a message", others are just working through cases. First time offences are generally struck out after a donation to the poor box.

[Janko]

none of these will be struck out unless the Guards really cock the evidence up and especially now they can't afford to with mounting pressures.

[harrym]

Depends on the judge and the headlines at the time. Some judges want to "send a message", others are just working through cases. First time offences are generally struck out after a donation to the poor box.

Can potential employers find out if you had to go to court because of a first time offence involving the purchase of sex? Or can they only find out about formal convictions?