N95 Masks And Vaccines ...

[ladiesman217]

So you are still alive ! Didn't know what happened to you and bmw, thought maybe you both had emigrated ?

I'll emigrate my fist onto your face in a minute!!

And now: some philosophy...

One can be alive, but not live.

Legality is not about ethics, morality or logic; it is about perspective.

Being offended in this day and age is less about actual intended hostility, and more about those afraid of what you have to say.

[ladiesman217]

That resembles the country I'm from before 1989. So I'm a bit worried. It might not be the way we want to go.

My god you're still around...

[Dub Lad]

I’m virtually a prisoner in my own home as where I live you have to wear a mask at all times and in the street too . I was shopping got too hot, couldn’t breathe, collapsed smashed my head on the tiled floor, was out cold for about half an hour until I woke up in hospital with concussion. Panicked in the hospital as I didn’t know what was happening to me and somehow got home. I barely remember the next couple of days. No alcohol involved. Was glad when I went on hols to the UK and could be exempt.

Even with vaccines you can still transmit COVID so they are also not the answer. They are already trialing combination of anti virals for covid...just like when you take malaria tablets. Same principle. But for reducing any covid viral load. Cheap to make and readily available. The governments are not telling us what the scientists are saying which is why everything keeps chopping and changing. We’re looking at about 5 years for freedom. No conspiracy theory straight from the mouth of a scientist who I have known more more than 30 years to me on on WhatsApp this afternoon.

Very depressing and a 3rd friend of mine committed suicide last week after losing her business.

Stay safe everyone

D xxx

Anti Malarial treatments, you would need to take every day/month depending which one you get and are very expensive, the side effects can vary, from experience traveling, they can cause lots of problems. The worst side effect I recieved is nausea and dizziness, but can be as severe as bringing on loss of appetite, depression, anxiety etc. I guess those that have the money can get the best treatment and if you can't afford it, you get the cheapest and with that the more severe side effects

[Dub Lad]

Generally speaking governments tend to move slow , so in light of that .. :

As of tomorrow ( Monday ) Austria and Germany both are making

N95 / Ffp2 masks Mandatory for all their citizens in shops and on

public transport .

With the rapidly spreading [and apparently more ‘lethal’] new “UK variant”

fabric masks and surgical masks are no longer sufficient .

Please follow their lead - Do stock up on N95s / Ffp2 and wear those when

shopping or in the office or on public transport or whenever you cannot

Social distance .


Vaccines :

Seems Pfizer is pulling a fast one : they have contracted for x number of

doses of vaccine to be delivered to x country + to EU .

Now Pfizer claims there are 6 doses of vaccine in one vial instead of the 5 ,

and so they are obliged to deliver thousands of vials Less than was initially

agreed upon . Dirty tactics - it is leaving a shortfall of vaccine availability .

( the extra 6th dose can be extracted - not always - with a specialty syringe ,

that happens to be in extreme short supply )

: there will be delays in vaccine rollout if Pfizer is the only supplier available .

Please plan ahead xx

And all you , do take care xx



/ please google the above info , or I will try to get some links .

Do Get them Masks !


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Yep, we need to up our mask game!

I'm not too concerned with the vaccine delays as we have other vaccines rolling out we have;

curevac
J&J
Sanofi/GSK


These three require normal refridgeration and the J&J only requires 1 dose.

These are all meant to come this first half of the year and we have ordered millions of each dose from 2.2 - 3.3 million each

[SteveB]

It can be a selfish attitude to dismiss the threat covid-19 as simply a problem for yourself. It may be statistically a low risk to yourself but it is more of a risk to certain vulnerable people and also a small percentage of a large population (a small amount of a big thing is still a big thing) can and is overwhelming health services everywhere.

[TonyB]

It can be a selfish attitude to dismiss the threat covid-19 as simply a problem for yourself. It may be statistically a low risk to yourself but it is more of a risk to certain vulnerable people and also a small percentage of a large population (a small amount of a big thing is still a big thing) can and is overwhelming health services everywhere.

Is it overwhelming?
Figures seem to be similar to other years.
Like deaths seem to be similar.
There appears to be an increase in deaths every winter.
And fewer deaths in the summer.

Dunno, but looking at Cso and Euromomo, government policy and media reports don't appear to follow the actual official figures.
Example, we locked down in November when figures were super low. Much lower than usual.

I'm sceptical of a lot of this.
Reminds me of another flu in 2009 or 2010 when vaccines we bought but then it turned out to be nothing.

And don't answer with all the people who have died as people die every year. Figures look the same as usual on Euromomo

[gonzo76]

Is it overwhelming?
Figures seem to be similar to other years.
Like deaths seem to be similar.
There appears to be an increase in deaths every winter.
And fewer deaths in the summer.

Dunno, but looking at Cso and Euromomo, government policy and media reports don't appear to follow the actual official figures.
Example, we locked down in November when figures were super low. Much lower than usual.

I'm sceptical of a lot of this.
Reminds me of another flu in 2009 or 2010 when vaccines we bought but then it turned out to be nothing.

And don't answer with all the people who have died as people die every year. Figures look the same as usual on Euromomo

Looking simply at deaths is a false narrative. If you get an illness that only requires a 3 week hospital visit, quarantine measures, potential for icu stay, and in the end, weeks or months later you are discharged and return to health, after thousands or tens of thousands in medical costs, not to mention personal income impact.... But you didn't die...

[gonzo76]

Seriously people, do some research. https://gbdeclaration.org/

Indeed, maybe you should.

Here is the most fair article I can present to you that gives at its most generously, a fair shake to the great Barrington declaration. I could have picked more simple articles but the Lancet is the gold standard and this article might in some way make you think a little because it does not totally dismiss all of the gbd statements, instead counters with what others are saying.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...555-5/fulltext


I don't link the simple debunking articles because anyone can find those with a simple Google search and in your case you've likely to say they're all funded by George Soros or Bill Gates etc.

But you do know what they call the person who graduated worst in their class in medical school, don't you? "Doctor".

[bigmango]

I have been using the FFP2 since the start of Covid-19.
I buy them online from an Irish supplier who I have been using for over 10 years. Next day delivery if ordered by noon but with Covid-19 allow 2/3 days.
Sent you a PM

Currently paying around €75 for 20. They have increased in price by about €10 in last two weeks. I re-use the same mask after 5/6 days.
They are a tighter fit than the surgical type so my glasses do not fog up as quickly.
Stay safe.

[Dub Lad]

Looking simply at deaths is a false narrative. If you get an illness that only requires a 3 week hospital visit, quarantine measures, potential for icu stay, and in the end, weeks or months later you are discharged and return to health, after thousands or tens of thousands in medical costs, not to mention personal income impact.... But you didn't die...

Gonzo, it's not worth replying to Tony, if you present scientific data sets he won't listen to it, he only wants to be in his echo chamber with Sophie and the other covid deniers.