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    Exclamation Survey for legal review of Section 7A of the Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 2017

    The Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 1993 was amended and replaced by Section 7A of Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 2017 which made it illegal to purchase sex in Ireland.

    The Department of Justice and Equality is looking for the views of concerned parties about the effects Section 7A of Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 2017 has had in Ireland.

    You can fill out the survey from the Department of Justice and Equality by following the link below, or you can email them at s7areview@justice.ie to share your views on the detrimental effects the law has had on Sex Workers in Ireland.

    https://t.co/CaVkWJQ9cK?amp=1

    Please take your time to fill out this survey, so we can get rid of this horrible law and hopefully work towards decrimanilising Sex Work in Ireland.
    You wont know, until you try!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagane00 View Post
    The Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 1993 was amended and replaced by Section 7A of Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 2017 which made it illegal to purchase sex in Ireland.

    The Department of Justice and Equality is looking for the views of concerned parties about the effects Section 7A of Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 2017 has had in Ireland.

    You can fill out the survey from the Department of Justice and Equality by following the link below, or you can email them at s7areview@justice.ie to share your views on the detrimental effects the law has had on Sex Workers in Ireland.

    https://t.co/CaVkWJQ9cK?amp=1

    Please take your time to fill out this survey, so we can get rid of this horrible law and hopefully work towards decrimanilising Sex Work in Ireland.
    DONE....... Thanks for posting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagane00 View Post
    The Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 1993 was amended and replaced by Section 7A of Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 2017 which made it illegal to purchase sex in Ireland.

    The Department of Justice and Equality is looking for the views of concerned parties about the effects Section 7A of Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 2017 has had in Ireland.

    You can fill out the survey from the Department of Justice and Equality by following the link below, or you can email them at s7areview@justice.ie to share your views on the detrimental effects the law has had on Sex Workers in Ireland.

    https://t.co/CaVkWJQ9cK?amp=1

    Please take your time to fill out this survey, so we can get rid of this horrible law and hopefully work towards decrimanilising Sex Work in Ireland.
    Turn on the responsible red light.

    As a client I'd like to be able to report trafficking if I felt it was happening. Right now I can't go near that option.

    The definition of a brothel is crazy, it needs to be wiped out, it's so dangerous for an escort to operate within the law right now.

    Policy makers are drafting law that keeps trafficking alive, therefore keeping the need for a NGO to monitor it. The NGO has good intentions, but if they really want to solve the problem of trafficking they need information about it, and a decriminalised client/escort is best positioned to report their concerns.

    The current law means Ruhama will have work to do for infinity, paying their salaries for infinity, let's solve this problem and decriminalise the sector so that the police/escorts/clients can work together to root out abusers.

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    Some facts you can add, when answering the survey:

    - Violence against Sex Workers has increased by 92% since Section 7A of the Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 2017 was brought in https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30985456.html.

    - The law has driven Sex Workers further underground in Ireland, as it has done everywhere the Swedish model has been implemented, which makes Sex Workers far less likely to report any crimes to the Gardai to help stop the trafficking that does exist.

    - All of the raids which have been carried out have had nothing to do with Human trafficking and have only been against Sex Workers working together for safety, so-called brothels.
    Since the law was put in place, Ireland has gone from tier 1 on the US State Department's report on Human trafficking to the tier 1 watchlist, making us the worst in Western Europe. https://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-re...33626-Jun2020/

    - Ruhama, which is funded by taxpayer money has no interest in acting in Sex Workers' best interests. They only acknowledge female Sex Workers, never talking about the Male, Trans and Non-Binary Workers that are every bit as important as their female counterparts. They will only work with Sex Workers who wish to leave Sex Work and even then do the bare minimum.

    - To conflate Sex Work with Human trafficking is a terrible misguided idea. Yes some people are trafficked into Ireland against their will for sex, but many more are trafficked to work in farms, as cleaners, to work in textiles and more. The law is not fit for purpose.


    Please fill out this survey, so we can get rid of this terrible law!
    Last edited by Hagane00; 02-08-20 at 09:56.
    You wont know, until you try!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mij View Post
    Turn on the responsible red light.

    As a client I'd like to be able to report trafficking if I felt it was happening. Right now I can't go near that option.

    The definition of a brothel is crazy, it needs to be wiped out, it's so dangerous for an escort to operate within the law right now.

    Policy makers are drafting law that keeps trafficking alive, therefore keeping the need for a NGO to monitor it. The NGO has good intentions, but if they really want to solve the problem of trafficking they need information about it, and a decriminalised client/escort is best positioned to report their concerns.

    The current law means Ruhama will have work to do for infinity, paying their salaries for infinity, let's solve this problem and decriminalise the sector so that the police/escorts/clients can work together to root out abusers.
    I completed the survey earlier today drawing particular attention to your first 2 points. If a client suspects that an escort may be exploited fear of prosecution might deter them from reporting to the authorities. And the definition of brothel is bollix, escorts should be encouraged to share for their safety rather than been prosecuted for sharing.

    Deadline is less than a week so maybe EI should bring this survey more to our attention in the coming days. The law needs to change for escort and client alike.
    Hello darkness my old friend.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagane00 View Post
    Some facts you can add, when answering the survey:

    - Violence against Sex Workers has increased by 92% since Section 7A of the Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 2017 was brought in https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30985456.html.

    - The law has driven Sex Workers further underground in Ireland, as it has done everywhere the Swedish model has been implemented, which makes Sex Workers far less likely to report any crimes to the Gardai to help stop the trafficking that does exist.

    - All of the raids which have been carried out have had nothing to do with Human trafficking and have only been against Sex Workers working together for safety, so-called brothels.
    Since the law was put in place, Ireland has gone from tier 1 on the US State Department's report on Human trafficking to the tier 1 watchlist, making us the worst in Western Europe. https://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-re...33626-Jun2020/

    - Ruhama, which is funded by taxpayer money has no interest in acting in Sex Workers' best interests. They only acknowledge female Sex Workers, never talking about the Male, Trans and Non-Binary Workers that are every bit as important as their female counterparts. They will only work with Sex Workers who wish to leave Sex Work and even then do the bare minimum.

    - To conflate Sex Work with Human trafficking is a terrible misguided idea. Yes some people are trafficked into Ireland against their will for sex, but many more are trafficked to work in farms, as cleaners, to work in textiles and more. The law is not fit for purpose.


    Please fill out this survey, so we can get rid of this terrible law!
    Raids have a lot to to with human trafficking so what you on about, when I was in Ireland I reported many places that were trafficking sex workers and the dept was very helpful, its got worse and even the evil hughes brothers who killed those desperate people were trafficking sex workers in to Ireland for 10 years and they are only 1 of many so all this that been told here is not true,
    The high percentage of attacks is not by clients but pimps and traffickers attacking other escorts so for once just tell the truth, we are not thick so why these lying articles . These traffickers are the scum of the earth and are here in Ireland making a fortune of out these girls and I had no problem reporting them and in fact I was surprised how well they acted on the information.
    Protect the sex workers who want to be sex workers of their own accord yes but protect the sex workers who are forced into this too, Don't turn a blind eye to it or dismiss it for your own gratification
    Last edited by Janko; 02-08-20 at 11:15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagane00 View Post
    Some facts you can add, when answering the survey:

    - Violence against Sex Workers has increased by 92% since Section 7A of the Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 2017 was brought in https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30985456.html.

    - The law has driven Sex Workers further underground in Ireland, as it has done everywhere the Swedish model has been implemented, which makes Sex Workers far less likely to report any crimes to the Gardai to help stop the trafficking that does exist.

    - All of the raids which have been carried out have had nothing to do with Human trafficking and have only been against Sex Workers working together for safety, so-called brothels.
    Since the law was put in place, Ireland has gone from tier 1 on the US State Department's report on Human trafficking to the tier 1 watchlist, making us the worst in Western Europe. https://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-re...33626-Jun2020/

    - Ruhama, which is funded by taxpayer money has no interest in acting in Sex Workers' best interests. They only acknowledge female Sex Workers, never talking about the Male, Trans and Non-Binary Workers that are every bit as important as their female counterparts. They will only work with Sex Workers who wish to leave Sex Work and even then do the bare minimum.

    - To conflate Sex Work with Human trafficking is a terrible misguided idea. Yes some people are trafficked into Ireland against their will for sex, but many more are trafficked to work in farms, as cleaners, to work in textiles and more. The law is not fit for purpose.


    Please fill out this survey, so we can get rid of this terrible law!
    Your first two points just contradict each other. How can you argue that there's am increase in attacks and then say it's less likely for attacks to be reported. Makes absolutely no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barney Rubble View Post
    I completed the survey earlier today drawing particular attention to your first 2 points. If a client suspects that an escort may be exploited fear of prosecution might deter them from reporting to the authorities. And the definition of brothel is bollix, escorts should be encouraged to share for their safety rather than been prosecuted for sharing.

    Deadline is less than a week so maybe EI should bring this survey more to our attention in the coming days. The law needs to change for escort and client alike.
    And sometimes clients couldn't care less about exploitation of very vulnerable people and just go ahead with the appointment anyway.

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    same guys all the time on here just usual untrue excuses to justify what can not be justified.
    For one, nothing at all stops any clent from reporting trafficking, nothing

    and the rubbish about brothels and 2-4 girls sharing makes them safer is total rubbish so wont wash, just the clients suiting themselves really

    An escort working alone in her place and doing her checks will be much safer than sharing a place with several other girls, no excuses ,safe from both these violent traffickers, pimps and also safe from the Law so use some common sense
    Last edited by Janko; 02-08-20 at 15:00.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mij View Post
    Turn on the responsible red light.

    As a client I'd like to be able to report trafficking if I felt it was happening. Right now I can't go near that option.

    The definition of a brothel is crazy, it needs to be wiped out, it's so dangerous for an escort to operate within the law right now.

    Policy makers are drafting law that keeps trafficking alive, therefore keeping the need for a NGO to monitor it. The NGO has good intentions, but if they really want to solve the problem of trafficking they need information about it, and a decriminalised client/escort is best positioned to report their concerns.

    The current law means Ruhama will have work to do for infinity, paying their salaries for infinity, let's solve this problem and decriminalise the sector so that the police/escorts/clients can work together to root out abusers.
    Rubbish you speak here, you have not a clue and you are not being genuine, why don't you explain your reason for telling this starting with why you can't report Trafficking, I was a Client and had no difficulty at all reporting so explain
    Last edited by Janko; 02-08-20 at 15:10.

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