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    Quote Originally Posted by FetishCherry View Post
    I totally agree. Many people went into depression and anxiety because of this situation. My mom always have been a person very grounded always took decisions with her head and never been a queen drama. But this times.. changed her OMG I couldn't recognise her.

    In media in my country was so many news scaring elderly people so bad. One news was that the government want to take away the elderly from their houses, away from their families and put them in places specially designed to quarantine them and isolated to be.. safe. My mom was terrified. :'' they want to kill us '' I told her:'' is not possible, pls stop reading all news u see on fb is fake, many are fake , imposiibile to be true, they want to put panic into you all readers, is not possible something like this to happen, we are not at Nazy times to take all elderly and put them in a concentration camp, pls stop believe this, we are part of Eu this is against human rights, nobody will be taken away '' ... but she insisted;'' no, no they said all people over 65yo will be taken away from families and put in isolation, they said and on tv pls come home, pls come home, they will kill us '' .... wow,,, I thought she will die from a heart attack before to any COVID infection. I couldn't convince her but thank God they said on tv that this will never happen even... someone from health department purposed this. That why I said anxiety given by all this news media tv etc affected the mental health f people much more then Covid itself.

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    President Klaus Iohannis had to reassure Romanian people the other day at a news conference that the government will not impose any measures that would separate elderly citizens from their families. The head of state had to make this declaration, as the director of the Matei Balş Epidemiological Institute of Bucharest, Adrian-Streinu Cercel, had come up with a rather austere plan, causing a public outcry.

    The institute’s director had proposed that citizens above 65 years of age would be best protected from getting infected with the coronavirus if they were separated and put in quarantine. According to his plan, when social distancing restrictions are finally eased in Romania, people belonging to the 65+ age group should leave their family environments and move to various quarantine locations for a period of 12 weeks.

    President Iohannis harshly criticized Cercel’s plan, entitled “The Great Vacation.” As the president said, the whole idea was “an unacceptable aberration, worthy of a totalitarian regime, not a democratic country in the 21st century.”

    The director of the epidemiological institute actually outlined four risk groups in his plan. Besides citizens more than 65 years old, he also specified those aged 45-65, people under 30, and those who have chronic conditions – so, basically all of society. Per his plan, citizens between the ages of 40 and 65 should also completely isolate themselves if their work is not considered “essential for the functioning of the country during the circumstances of the pandemic.”

    “No one has to be afraid; we live in a free country, and the state will not enforce such totalitarian-like measures. Elderly citizens can rest assured; authorities will not remove them from their homes and put them in quarantine centers. We do not need any such panic-mongering statements; older people will be helped by being properly informed and counseled on how to avoid getting infected,” Iohannis emphasized.
    Romania(n) is fascinating, I can understand why your mother may have been worried Cherry, between the Soviets and Germans they probably traumatized a lot of people in the 30's & 40's, even maybe a generation after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilHannon View Post
    Romania(n) is fascinating, I can understand why your mother may have been worried Cherry, between the Soviets and Germans they probably traumatized a lot of people in the 30's & 40's, even maybe a generation after.
    Even communism died long time ago as regim in my country, people still have that mentality and those ideas... Takes lots of time and many generations to change people mentality...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FetishCherry View Post
    Even communism died long time ago as regim in my country, people still have that mentality and those ideas... Takes lots of time and many generations to change people mentality...
    it's very hard to shake it off, our own country has it's own share there, we only have hope that time heals old wounds. I hope she is well now Cherry
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilHannon View Post
    it's very hard to shake it off, our own country has it's own share there, we only have hope that time heals old wounds. I hope she is well now Cherry
    Yes, she is fine but at the time she was panicking and I,m sure lots of people over 65 panicked too. ANd I,m sure many suffered from heart disease. U cant play with this when u are very prone to a heart attack u not need such of news.

    I remember when I worked in courthouse one of my college a lady who often come at work being drunk sent a paper to an elderly couple calling them for a trial in court . for some land dispute. By mistake she being drunk she wrote as reason they are called to come in court '' divorce'' rather than ' land possession'' . The wife, 84yo woman poor woman had a heart attack. Her husband sue my college for negligence because his wife could die because her mistake when wrote that paper. Elderly people are very vulnerable... u can't play with such sensitive things ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FetishCherry View Post
    Yes, she is fine but at the time she was panicking and I,m sure lots of people over 65 panicked too. ANd I,m sure many suffered from heart disease. U cant play with this when u are very prone to a heart attack u not need such of news.

    I remember when I worked in courthouse one of my college a lady who often come at work being drunk sent a paper to an elderly couple calling them for a trial in court . for some land dispute. By mistake she being drunk she wrote as reason they are called to come in court '' divorce'' rather than ' land possession'' . The wife, 84yo woman poor woman had a heart attack. Her husband sue my college for negligence because his wife could die because her mistake when wrote that paper. Elderly people are very vulnerable... u can't play with such sensitive things ...
    Very true Cherry. My grandmother passed away last year, and I was very recently thinking of her and how she would have been traumatized by COVID-19 situation. My mother is more elderly now but very vibrant and young at heart so not much problem there but my grandmother, if you had a flu or a cold you would have had to forget about visiting her. if you did, she would have a barrier against the door!! imagine COVID!!
    I would do anything to have one last visit with her but in ways now was glad when she passed , so she wouldn't have to live through this shit situation
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    About 8 year sago, my grandmother for a good few months before she had died (we shared the same birthday), had dementia.

    She died in hospital as she collapsed on the street age 74, 3 weeks before her 75th birthday.
    After months in hospital, we finally found that she has a curable cancer, but nobody really thought to check for this due to not showing any signs of it.

    She was going to be let out, but on the way, she had collapsed again, that was when I knew that she would never leave the place alive.
    It was less than 1 week after, she had died.

    But when she was not in hospital, she would to go out shopping and eat at a cafe each day and she would follow the same routine like clockwork.
    On one day, I saw her out and she had cream and crumbs from a cake all over her jacket, which I had to clean for her, but for a minute before, she didn't even recognise me, then when she did, I got a big kiss and a hug from her.

    I had found out later that day, she had gone to the same cafe twice and order the same as she had earlier, but nobody said anything to her.
    Maybe they wanted the money, or they just thought that she was hungry.

    However, if she was alive today, it makes me think how she would have coped in this situation.
    She live on her own in a council bungalow which is for the older generation.

    People as such really need as much help as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floki View Post
    About 8 year sago, my grandmother for a good few months before she had died (we shared the same birthday), had dementia.

    She died in hospital as she collapsed on the street age 74, 3 weeks before her 75th birthday.
    After months in hospital, we finally found that she has a curable cancer, but nobody really thought to check for this due to not showing any signs of it.

    She was going to be let out, but on the way, she had collapsed again, that was when I knew that she would never leave the place alive.
    It was less than 1 week after, she had died.

    But when she was not in hospital, she would to go out shopping and eat at a cafe each day and she would follow the same routine like clockwork.
    On one day, I saw her out and she had cream and crumbs from a cake all over her jacket, which I had to clean for her, but for a minute before, she didn't even recognise me, then when she did, I got a big kiss and a hug from her.

    I had found out later that day, she had gone to the same cafe twice and order the same as she had earlier, but nobody said anything to her.
    Maybe they wanted the money, or they just thought that she was hungry.

    However, if she was alive today, it makes me think how she would have coped in this situation.
    She live on her own in a council bungalow which is for the older generation.

    People as such really need as much help as possible.
    Thanks for sharing Floki. Sorry for your loss. One of the things about this pandemic I see for myself, it really makes me/people think about the past, people, memories, observe behaviours, think of their futures, implementing new features in their lives. I suppose we can hope it will bring some good when it all settles down.

    I'm sure the cafe just saw your grandmother as a lady who liked a coffee and chocolate eclair, twice in quick succession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilHannon View Post
    Thanks for sharing Floki. Sorry for your loss. One of the things about this pandemic I see for myself, it really makes me/people think about the past, people, memories, observe behaviours, think of their futures, implementing new features in their lives. I suppose we can hope it will bring some good when it all settles down.

    I'm sure the cafe just saw your grandmother as a lady who liked a coffee and chocolate eclair, twice in quick succession.
    I will more likely agree to this as I knew the cafe owners for years.
    Since I was 12 and was working on the market and I would deliver fruit and veg to them quite often.


    This virus will wake up so many peoples view on how to live differently, hopefully to an healthier way of life.
    And may bring us all closer together, as long as it is at least 1 metre apart of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floki View Post
    I will more likely agree to this as I knew the cafe owners for years.
    Since I was 12 and was working on the market and I would deliver fruit and veg to them quite often.


    This virus will wake up so many peoples view on how to live differently, hopefully to an healthier way of life.
    And may bring us all closer together, as long as it is at least 1 metre apart of course
    and you know, who would begrudge her that Floki? one other lesson I learnt during this pandemic is, give yourself a treat, you deserve it.
    standing outside a coffee shop the other day, lady ordering some sort of coffee (i don't drink coffee so wouldn't know the name)
    no chocolate in that she was saying, not today.
    i said to her, would you not get the chocolate in it?
    she says not today, maybe tomorrow.
    i said to her but who knows what might happen before tomorrow.
    she ordered the chocolate on top

    i really hope it does create good in the world, i do see people getting back to basics for sure, I just hope it is everlasting.
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