Lockdown

**TonyB** · 19-10-20, 16:29

Originally Posted by gonzo76

You did exactly compare it to 100 years ago when you declared it wasn't a pandemic because 300 million aren't dead.

Austria locked down extremely tightly, more so than we did, I work with People there and they were far more restricted than we were.

Sweden, for the press it gets about not locking down, is not entirely true, they just did not lock down to the same extent that other countries did, and their results sadly reflect this.

If you tell us again to look at the "actual figures" then you better provide them because it's clear you're not looking are the same info as the rest of us.

A friend of mine lives in Austria and was in nighclubs, pubs and restaurants. He claims there isn't even talk of a lockdown there.
Sweden didn't lockdown.

Go to the Central Statistics Office they only show the first quarter, although you'll find the second quarter too. Deaths are slightly down on previous years.

Have a look at this
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...ths_in_Ireland
again deaths down.

Sweden behaved themselves. I would agree with this. Because they behave they don't need to lockdown.

In Ireland the Gardai won't respond to house parties during a lockdown, they don't want to know.
I see escorts travelling the length and breath of the country.

The WHO don't recommend lockdowns to manage Covid.
Well, they want a short sharp lockdown if at all.
https://www.newstalk.com/news/says-n...vid-19-1074504

**TonyB** · 19-10-20, 16:32

Originally Posted by gonzo76

Deaths are up, provide some facts to support yourself if you've going to say they are not.

https://www.hiqa.ie/hiqa-news-update...june-2020-hiqa

Death as a direct function of covid in an otherwise healthy person seems rare but it happens. It seems to speed death in vulnerable people. And the impact it has had I health systems leads to other deaths that may have been prevented too.

Get your head out of your ass.

I haven't time at the moment, but I can show that's incorrect.
Hiqa figures are based on everyone dies from Covid by default, and then afterwards when the autospy is performed the coronor adjusts the figures.

I'll come back with this, I have an escort appointment so I have to run. Sorry

**Onelastgo** · 19-10-20, 16:33

Originally Posted by pegmyass85

Looks like level 5 by the end of the week.

It will make zero difference
The figures might slow
But they’ll crawl back up again
There’s less public buy in this time
An endless series of lock downs
Is just death by a 1000 cuts to people’s mental health and well-being not to mention their finances.
The money that will be shelled out in on the PUP
Would be better used to increase hospital
Capacity and testing facilities
It’s not like we won’t need it before May 2021

**TonyB** · 19-10-20, 16:33

Originally Posted by Dub Lad

Ivor "grifter" cummins uses Sweden as some perfect model, they are not perfect 6,000 deaths so far.

The argument is with 3 times the number of old people, they have done only slightly worse than us.
I don't know.
But he makes an interesting point

**pegmyass85** · 19-10-20, 16:36

[QUOTE=TonyB;2305335]A friend of mine lives in Austria and was in nighclubs, pubs and restaurants. He claims there isn't even talk of a lockdown there.
Sweden didn't lockdown.

Go to the Central Statistics Office they only show the first quarter, although you'll find the second quarter too. Deaths are slightly down on previous years.

Have a look at this
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...ths_in_Ireland
again deaths down.

Sweden behaved themselves. I would agree with this. Because they behave they don't need to lockdown.

In Ireland the Gardai won't respond to house parties during a lockdown, they don't want to know.
I see escorts travelling the length and breath of the country.

The WHO don't recommend lockdowns to manage Covid.
Well, they want a short sharp lockdown if at all.
https://www.newstalk.com/news/says-n...vid-19-1074504[/QUOTE

Close to 6 thousand deaths say Sweden didn't behave themselves. Their population is twice ours there death rate more than 5 times ours.

**DeletedMuser** · 19-10-20, 16:36

There are too many of us parasites on this planet already.We all fall down would be an acceptable outcome.

**Dub Lad** · 19-10-20, 16:48

Originally Posted by TonyB

The argument is with 3 times the number of old people, they have done only slightly worse than us.
I don't know.
But he makes an interesting point

3 times the deaths Ireland has is not something to hold up as a perfect model.

**TonyB** · 19-10-20, 16:53

Originally Posted by Dub Lad

3 times the deaths Ireland has is not something to hold up as a perfect model.

It's not 3 times.
It's 3 times the number of old people and yet only slightly worse death wise.
They should have been a lot worse.

Point being lockdowns don't work as per the WHO guidance.

Enforcement of proper behavior should, in my opinion

**TonyB** · 19-10-20, 16:54

Originally Posted by Onelastgo

It will make zero difference
The figures might slow
But they’ll crawl back up again
There’s less public buy in this time
An endless series of lock downs
Is just death by a 1000 cuts to people’s mental health and well-being not to mention their finances.
The money that will be shelled out in on the PUP
Would be better used to increase hospital
Capacity and testing facilities
It’s not like we won’t need it before May 2021

Can I like this twice?

Spot on .

Totally agree

**Dub Lad** · 19-10-20, 17:02

anyways it's looking like it will be level 5 for 6 weeks.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...eeks-1.4384986

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