The banning of NBT and daddy and some other thoughts.

[Bumshingles]

Daddy, my fingers hurt from typing.

I will acknowledge that most of what drove me to sending you and ninebythree on a week's holiday was ninebythree not you. However you were in cahoots with him in places so I don't think my banning you was unfair, there was just less reason to ban you than there was ninebythree, but I still think there was enough reason.

Regards your comments on my profile I complained about, yes I can take a joke and yes I was quite happy to have a joke with you, but I'm a woman and you won't find many women laughing their socks off after you keep going on about them as if to say they are an old whore, e.g. wizards sleeve, teeth fallen out etc.

Pat x

Ye an adiquite response just about what i expected to be honest i'm not moaning about been banned sure jake did it in less than an hour but i was trying to break a record with him and i think i achieved that much, more so why when you had a valid reason before and not a peep from you.

Tell you what permanently ban my my profile...

[Westsidex]

Welcome back Westie.

You're correct that I did'nt want to be a moderator at the time as I was busy with other things and before the issue of community moderators was ever raised, I along with others would have taken a stance along with bigpaws in favour of free speech. However, over the course of last summer and autumn things got progressively worse here with a lot of personal abuse being thrown around and even member's personal information being posted. So I changed my mind as to the value of community mods, and I think you also moved from being anti-mod or neutral on the subject to favouring their introduction at around the same time.

Following a discussion in the old chatroom it was suggested that I run a poll on who the members would like to have as moderators. The first week was taken up with nominations followed by a vote. Bigpaws then put up a poll as to whether the members wanted community mods or not. On a small turnout, a majority (including myself) voted in favour. So Patricia had some sort of approval from a voting majority to proceed with the introduction of community mods. The poll for mods that I organised failed because nobody who was nominated for it actually wanted to do it. While I said that I was not interested at the time, I fully supported the idea and the mods themselves, including yourself, when they were appointed.

So I never saw the mods as enemy number one. In fact when bigpaws formed his free-speech group, I took a decision not to accept the invitation to join it, because it was obvious to me that it was directed at the mods and against yourself and Qph in particular. I even stated this on a thread when you were threatening one of your departures because of the anti-mod campaign and you agreed with me. So I think the evidence of countless threads plus the recollections of people such as Qph will show that I supported community modding and the individual mods from pretty much the same time that you decided they were necessary.

Had the situation not been getting out of hand during the latter half of last year, I would not have seen the reason or need for it........I don't believe in a police state but I see the need for police. The situation was getting out of hand and more contributors would have been put off posting if something would not have been done. The escorts themselves were already drawing back out of fear of being targetted by the bullies and only trolls and maggots would have ventured out.

Enough said. Sin e.

Good to have you back Westie.

My point was more of a scarcastic remark than an attack.I said and will stand over it.Alot of ppl would come along now and say "me me" for modding.Now.At the beginning they wouldnt because of the crap that would be thrown.Im not suggesting or implying that you or any of the mod team are not suitable.

As far as paws goes,he had so much faith in what he believed to be right for the site (for him) that he left it after QPH was made a mod and only turned up under diff username.He was intent on stirring up hassle for mods at the time more than maintaining what he wanted.

Its like the other site i modded on.At the start (when it was free) alot of ppl were saying "oh no way would mod or up on their high horses "i wouldnt be suitable etc etc.All moral bs about it.Alot of those same ppl are now mods (when its a pay site).

Congrads anyway and hey just to prove i stand over what i say,i still think that the mods here should be rewarded in some shape or form as they still end up making life easier for the E-I staff by free their time which of course leads to a more efficient running of the site.

Sincerely,
Westside.

[Bumshingles]

I know they were prob acting the bollox but this is a disgrace.Sweetie,you and your mods need to take your heads back out of your arses.These guys,one a main reviewer and the other a main poster get banned but this roger whatever his name is (i have probs remembering irrelevant stuff) is left alone.He openly attacks a few of your paying advertisers and he is left here but NBT and daddy get banned.Thats bullshit.

Lovingly,
Westsidex

Thanx west i couldnt of put it better myself

[Patricia]

Congrads anyway and hey just to prove i stand over what i say,i still think that the mods here should be rewarded in some shape or form as they still end up making life easier for the E-I staff by free their time which of course leads to a more efficient running of the site.

I do try to "reward" the mods West. I just never make a point of that in public as I don't want people applying to be mods just because they think there are "rewards".

[Bumshingles]

I do try to "reward" the mods West. I just never make a point of that in public as I don't want people applying to be mods just because they think there are "rewards".

Try to reward your little gang all you like its cheap labour and you know it pat

Gives you more time to do your own thing

[Westsidex]

Hi West,

Twas me who sent ninebythree and big daddy 69 on a one week holiday.

My reasons for doing this is that the pair of them (though ninebythree more so than big daddy 69) were being a continual pain in the arse.

They were constantly insulting and offending other users, therefore generating complaints from other users to me about them. I had about enough of this. There are only so many hours in the day and when I have to spend hours every day dealing with bullshit created by one or two users of this site, I get pretty damn sick of those users and their stupid antics.

The pair of them were also just generally hanging around trying to piss me off at every oppurtunity. You only have to look at my profile and all the spiteful visitor messages they left me in the last few days they were here to see that.

Additionally ninebythree published an escort's full address here twice in the days before he left. Twice because a mod removed it and then he did it again, showing his total contempt for the rules of this site.

Also ninebythree and big daddy 69 engaged in posting what they seem to think is my real name. They are barking up the wrong tree completely, but that's not the point, they were still posting what they thought was someone's real name.

Finally ninebythree send me a PM saying he would publish what he considers damaging private info about me here unless I did something for him. The info he refered to is not private and I wouldn't care if more people knew it, but that's not really the point, the point is that he was trying to threaten to me and I don't appreciate that.

After all this, and might I add one mod being so annoyed by their constant harassing of him that he had to take a holiday from this place, yes I did send ninebythree and big daddy 69 on a one week holiday. And I'm not going to apologise for this - I think it was well deserved.

Patricia x

A point could be made that they were banned only because its you that was affected.I say this judging on the way Rock is carrying on with Jenkins and is going to carry on with others by the looks of it.

Im not saying NBT or Daddy should not have being banned.Im saying its not right when they were while another person is doing crap elsewhere on the site and nothing done about it.how many posts have mods moved now belonging to him / her?

I ,by shear fluke ,saw the visitors qs on some profiles and i will be honest about it.Anyone would tell you they are a bad idea,a very bad idea.Do yourself a favour and delete them off the profiles.They are bound to create hassle,no doubt about it.

You see its the lack of consistancy is what is shining with this.The mods and yourself should get together and decide on the extenct of what is tolerable on.Then when that is worked out ,that is it.Any breech of that is a ban regardless of who started what ,when or where.

I recently saw on a diff site where some bright spark stated that there is a zero tolerance on abuse on a certain type on the site.Sorry but thats the way it should have being all the time.

You can now see why i deleted half the site one day.Because it works.It mightnt seem nice but it sure works.That is of course unless some other mod doesnt start to loose his life over it

Away,awayyyyyyyyy,
Westside.

[Westsidex]

I do try to "reward" the mods West. I just never make a point of that in public as I don't want people applying to be mods just because they think there are "rewards".

but they do and will save you alot of time, time that could be spent working on other aspects of the site.The mods applying for it based on rewards is something that you and the other mods will have to judge.I have seen it on the other place and it sucks big time.

Westside.

[Patricia]

Try to reward your little gang all you like its cheap labour and you know it pat

Gives you more time to do your own thing

Yes it does give me more time to do other things if I have help from mods. It is also much better for the site. Even if I was here 24/7 doing nothing other than looking after these boards, I wouldn't have all the talent our mods bring to this site. I don't have community mods instead of staff in order to save money, I do it because I can't find staff as knowlegable and able as I can find members of this community that are prepared to help. I do try to reward mods and any mod who ever wanted a full time job rather than to just be a volunteer mod and get a reward could ask and I might well give him a job

[Patricia]

A point could be made that they were banned only because its you that was affected.I say this judging on the way Rock is carrying on with Jenkins and is going to carry on with others by the looks of it.

Rock was recently banned BTW. A mod PM'd me to say he felt Rock should be banned, I looked at the evidence, agreed and banned Rock.

I ,by shear fluke ,saw the visitors qs on some profiles and i will be honest about it.Anyone would tell you they are a bad idea,a very bad idea.Do yourself a favour and delete them off the profiles.They are bound to create hassle,no doubt about it.

It's a new idea. We are giving it a try. If they cause nothing but trouble we will get rid of them. Also, in case you don't know, all users can delete profile messages left for them.

[Bumshingles]

Yes it does give me more time to do other things if I have help from mods. It is also much better for the site. Even if I was here 24/7 doing nothing other than looking after these boards, I wouldn't have all the talent our mods bring to this site. I don't have community mods instead of staff in order to save money, I do it because I can't find staff as knowlegable and able as I can find members of this community that are prepared to help. I do try to reward mods and any mod who ever wanted a full time job rather than to just be a volunteer mod and get a reward could ask and I might well give him a job

So pat as i said are you going to ban my profile permanently your response to what i said was evasive at best and i dont think i will be part of this sinking ship any longer so i know you wont delete it but ban it permanently then were all happy..