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I don't give a shit any more cause I'm stuck here being paws for the next 2 weeks while you're off sunin your ass............ thanks a bunch............Originally Posted by Bumshingles
i posted as bumshingles at the same time this profile posted this thread...As i said even now im not hiding who i am....
Nite all
Big daddy
"It's far easier to fight for principles than to live up to them."
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Welcome back Westie.
You're correct that I did'nt want to be a moderator at the time as I was busy with other things and before the issue of community moderators was ever raised, I along with others would have taken a stance along with bigpaws in favour of free speech. However, over the course of last summer and autumn things got progressively worse here with a lot of personal abuse being thrown around and even member's personal information being posted. So I changed my mind as to the value of community mods, and I think you also moved from being anti-mod or neutral on the subject to favouring their introduction at around the same time.
Following a discussion in the old chatroom it was suggested that I run a poll on who the members would like to have as moderators. The first week was taken up with nominations followed by a vote. Bigpaws then put up a poll as to whether the members wanted community mods or not. On a small turnout, a majority (including myself) voted in favour. So Patricia had some sort of approval from a voting majority to proceed with the introduction of community mods. The poll for mods that I organised failed because nobody who was nominated for it actually wanted to do it. While I said that I was not interested at the time, I fully supported the idea and the mods themselves, including yourself, when they were appointed.
So I never saw the mods as enemy number one. In fact when bigpaws formed his free-speech group, I took a decision not to accept the invitation to join it, because it was obvious to me that it was directed at the mods and against yourself and Qph in particular. I even stated this on a thread when you were threatening one of your departures because of the anti-mod campaign and you agreed with me. So I think the evidence of countless threads plus the recollections of people such as Qph will show that I supported community modding and the individual mods from pretty much the same time that you decided they were necessary.
Had the situation not been getting out of hand during the latter half of last year, I would not have seen the reason or need for it........I don't believe in a police state but I see the need for police. The situation was getting out of hand and more contributors would have been put off posting if something would not have been done. The escorts themselves were already drawing back out of fear of being targetted by the bullies and only trolls and maggots would have ventured out.
Enough said. Sin e.
Good to have you back Westie.
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Hi West,
Twas me who sent ninebythree and big daddy 69 on a one week holiday.
My reasons for doing this is that the pair of them (though ninebythree more so than big daddy 69) were being a continual pain in the arse.
They were constantly insulting and offending other users, therefore generating complaints from other users to me about them. I had about enough of this. There are only so many hours in the day and when I have to spend hours every day dealing with bullshit created by one or two users of this site, I get pretty damn sick of those users and their stupid antics.
The pair of them were also just generally hanging around trying to piss me off at every oppurtunity. You only have to look at my profile and all the spiteful visitor messages they left me in the last few days they were here to see that.
Additionally ninebythree published an escort's full address here twice in the days before he left. Twice because a mod removed it and then he did it again, showing his total contempt for the rules of this site.
Also ninebythree and big daddy 69 engaged in posting what they seem to think is my real name. They are barking up the wrong tree completely, but that's not the point, they were still posting what they thought was someone's real name.
Finally ninebythree send me a PM saying he would publish what he considers damaging private info about me here unless I did something for him. The info he refered to is not private and I wouldn't care if more people knew it, but that's not really the point, the point is that he was trying to threaten to me and I don't appreciate that.
After all this, and might I add one mod being so annoyed by their constant harassing of him that he had to take a holiday from this place, yes I did send ninebythree and big daddy 69 on a one week holiday. And I'm not going to apologise for this - I think it was well deserved.
Patricia x
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They are such cool cats.... I'm sad they were thrown out of the house... Its a dog eat dog world outside. Let them back in soon!
Last edited by DollyDarling; 13-06-09 at 01:19.
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I tonite are posting this message very reluctately as due to the fact that one of the moderators on here seems to think that nb3 and i are the same person , I can category produce proof from 3 well known escorts on this site that i have met can testify to the fact that we are not.
Tonight i got a pm from mr 27 with an messenger address which i accepted out of curiousity more so than anything as i was not familar with the reasons for his centure/banning. I had a conversation for nearly 2 hrs with him and he asked me to put his points of view across as he will not be returning to the site when his ban finishes. Before i start i have the log of chat in anyone what to see it.
Shit wer do i start.(alot to get through)
Firstly, he asked me to apologise to anyone who thought he was a tosser or that he insulted during his tenure as a member of his site.
As for his recent altercation with Patricia and his subsequent banning ,he says it was bourne out of constant frusrtation of the direction this website is taking. As for his blog, and the posting of the escorts address twice, he says this is not an independent escort it is an agency (a point which he has mention to sarah and patricia several times ove the past 2 months.). After the first time it was edited ,he did repost the saved copy and could not edit as this function was disabled by Patricia.
And the only reason he had to repost it was because of the adverts placed on it by a certain escort, which according to nb3 has no place on the blogs. He also said he posted a review of an escort which operates out of above mention appartment ,which as not be posted yet after Sarah told him it would be posted that morning and now the escort has convienetly pulled out of review system.
As for he showing contempt for the rules of the site with reference to giving of addresses, tonight roxy posted the names of 2 gardai which had to be edited twice by luther without censure for her.
As for posting Patricia real name ,he is still looking for it, if as you put put it he is barking up the wrong three, where is the problem . According to nb3 he put suggested a can of soup for a moderator, and according to him he is not responsible for any replys after that.
As for the pm he sent to Patricia about damaging information , how is it damaging as it is in the possesion of every advertising escort on this board. As for the constant harassment of moderator, that he needed holiday, nb3 sent me a transcript of conversation between himself and the said moderator who is clearly under the influence of drink which is extremely threatening (i also have a copy of this if any one want to read).
Finally he request sif possible that you would remove all his reveiws and he apologises to the escort involved but he does not want to be part of a review system that is totally corrupt and easily manipulated.
And finally he says that the reason you are damn sick of his antics is because he points out your failings as a website operator and in his opinion he was a decenting voice and he only did it to try to improve honesty between punters and escort thus a better experience for all.
These are nb3 words not mine.
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My own opinion on what i posted above is as follows if any cares,
Firstly i do hope nb3 returns from his ban because even though i never liked him he was always informantive about good and bad escorts. Ok he might go over the top at times but deep down i think hes intentions were good.
From our in depth conversation tonite , i think he feels a little aggrived with the selection of moderators. I think he feels that there were members on this forum long before the current selection that were overlooked because of a clash of personality . OF the current moderators only one of them is a member over 16 months,(considering the site has members since 06 that might have a grater imput) and also ther is no female moderator. He told me tonite that he on several occasions offered to moderate the review system but you declined , in my opinion i think this was a mistake.
Any way i hope Patricia and nb3 can put their differences aside for the betterment of the site going forward ,because i know he doesnt like orange lol
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Ok if generally annoying people was a reason to ban then there are a couple of candidates that would appear to be well up the list compared to nbt and bigdaddy ( yes I mean nicegirls and robin amongst others)
If the soup post was offensive enough to warrant a ban why was the post and the reply not edited or deleted. Not condoning anyone posting personal info.
Lastly is it true that community mods can now ban if true it is a turn for the worse given the obvious frailities of a couple of the moderators, one who jumps in with both feet on a regular basis following his own agenda and another who has regular apparently drink fueled outbursts and appears to say the least emotionally unstable.
And as one of the dwindling number of non moderating posters here good luck to doozer and carlos
Its the Crips and the Bloods all over again
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Hi West,
Twas me who sent ninebythree and big daddy 69 on a one week holiday.
You did after i asked you a simple question
My reasons for doing this is that the pair of them (though ninebythree more so than big daddy 69) were being a continual pain in the arse.
well perhaps i should of tried harder
They were constantly insulting and offending other users, therefore generating complaints from other users to me about them. I had about enough of this. There are only so many hours in the day and when I have to spend hours every day dealing with bullshit created by one or two users of this site, I get pretty damn sick of those users and their stupid antics.
who are you talking about here pat all i do is have a laugh with people they say what they want to me and i never ran to you for anything on this site. You should clarify this point as to who exactly complained about a bit of banter so it can be avoided next time but you wont..
The pair of them were also just generally hanging around trying to piss me off at every oppurtunity. You only have to look at my profile and all the spiteful visitor messages they left me in the last few days they were here to see that.
I dont see anything spitefull in anything i said just having a laugh with you you responded to me the first time did you do that out of spite. If and when i become spitefull it will be blatently obvious. But fair enough you've no intrest in being on friendly terms with me fine but my time here wasnt all counter productive you just seem to have a problem in general with people that speak there minds freely on the board
Additionally ninebythree published an escort's full address here twice in the days before he left. Twice because a mod removed it and then he did it again, showing his total contempt for the rules of this site.
Also ninebythree and big daddy 69 engaged in posting what they seem to think is my real name. They are barking up the wrong tree completely, but that's not the point, they were still posting what they thought was someone's real name.
well then what the problem is i only posted a pic of a beautifull lady
Finally ninebythree send me a PM saying he would publish what he considers damaging private info about me here unless I did something for him. The info he refered to is not private and I wouldn't care if more people knew it, but that's not really the point, the point is that he was trying to threaten to me and I don't appreciate that.
so i get banned for this your a hypocrite
After all this, and might I add one mod being so annoyed by their constant harassing of him that he had to take a holiday from this place, yes I did send ninebythree and big daddy 69 on a one week holiday. And I'm not going to apologise for this - I think it was well deserved.
Ah poor baby ricky cant stand the heat i was in the chat and witnessed his drunken outbursts about how he'd make 9s life hell here and so on then he made an offensive sig to 9 i then put ric in my sig you edited mine only hardly fair patty. Then your little lapdog makes a thread with no other purpose but to offend myself and cal99 ie Toilet duck pming me to say hes done this for me to check it out so i bet him at his own game he doesnt just get to walk away then when it suits him but of course you will agree with him as usual because hes a lapdog that does you work for pittance so i at least understand why you use him. Btw who asked you to apoligize not me i dont want nor would i expect one from you pat you've added to the us against them mentality goin on here, i just hope you dont think i'l apoligize because you'l be waiting along time
Patricia x[/QUOTE]
Now patty you could of banned me for posting the private escort forum because i saw the thread were certain escorts asked for it but you didnt i never heard a word about that from you. That was a valid reason and i expected it to be honest but you make no mention of that in your post so i can only assume it didnt come into your reason for banning me. So you've banned me for having a laugh basically. While ric who i made take a holiday to a gay festival(thats the worst load of bollix you've ever posted btw) can produce threads with the sole purpose of insulting people and throwing his weight around when he has a gargle with no sanctions in fact he has been nothing but praised because he gives up all his free time to you with little or no reward infact now you've incresed his powers to now been able to ban people so this should be intresting..
Big daddy
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I can appreciate that ninebythree feels this website could improve in several areas, and would like to see changes he feels would improve it come about. On the face of it, this is great and makes him and his feedback an asset to this site.
The problem is, ninebythree wants everything he wants done and wants it done now, and this just isn't realistic. I have taken the time to discuss some of ninebythree's ideas for this site with him in private and explained to him how much work they are.
We are very busy here at E-I, and I have as many staff as I can find at the moment. Clients are not our only priority, we also have to look after escorts.
At the moment we are developing a system to warn escorts by text message of potentially dangerous clients as soon as an attack on an escort is reported to us. This is something I've wanted to do for ages, but it is always getting put off, and I am not prepared to put it off again, to make more changes to the reviews system now instead. Especially because in the last year we have already spent a lot of time making changes to the reviews system.
It can't always be about what a few clients want me to do next. Just because ninebythree has some ideas he'd like to see implimented, doesn't mean everything can stop here for us to pander to him. Some of his ideas might be good, but until project managers, web developers, web designers etc are growing on trees in my back yard, I can't take every website improvement suggestion I get and instantly impliment it.
Trouble with ninebythree is that - despite my explaining my position to him as carefully as I can - he is like a spoilt child as soon as he doesn't get what he want instantly. I spent half the week before I banned him for a week being totally distracted by his constant childish antics. All his stupid tantrums do is waste my time and piss me off. Nobody wins when ninebythree throws a fit. He doesn't get what he wants, I don't get on with what I'm trying to do, it is just one big waste of everyone's time trying to get ninebythree to calm down and behave himself.
Ninebythree (with big daddy 69 in places) was very rude to me, to Sarah and to the moderators over the last week he was here. I'm pretty thick skinned myself, but I am not prepared to have my staff and my moderators constantly slagged, ridiculed and insulted. The way he treated Sarah just drove me over the edge. She is a lovely girl and she was trying to help him by investigating reviews he reported as suspect and he just went off on her, because he thought she didn't reply to one of his PMs, which she said she didn't receive. I removed some gross disgusting sexual filth ninebythree directed towards Sarah over this and it was too much. Yes this is an adult site, but no that doesn't mean you can direct verbally abusive sexually degrading shit at my staff whenever you please. It was too much.
I don't know if the address he was posting belongs to an agency rather than an independent. But we don't post people's full addresses here, whether they are agency or independent.
Roxy posting the names of 2 guards was not as malicious as ninebythree posting the escort address twice. We allow escorts to post the names of guards dealing with their cases in the private forum, so I can well understand an escort doing this in the public forums thinking it is ok. It was appropriate for Luther to remove the names and ask Roxy not to do it again, but it didn't warrant a week's ban.
The Patricia's real name thing is stupid. I am not going to go into it further in order to protect the person's privacy, but as I have assured ninebythree before many times it is not my name. It is however somebody's real name and I maggotted ninebythree before (some months ago) for repeatedly posting it, he really should have known a ban was on it's way if he started this up again.
The "damaging info" ninebythree threatened to publish that I mentioned is something numerous escorts would know. I didn't say it was genuinely damaging info, I said I did not like his attitude in trying to threaten me over it, and that stands.
Regards the allegation that one of our moderators is a drunk and abusive under the influence of drink. If ninebythree or any other user is verbally abused by a drunk moderator on this site, they need to let me know about this, so I can look into it. The fact that ninebythree has apparently once been verbally abused by a mod of this site does not give him the right to treat all mods like shit.
Ninebythree's reviews will not be removed. As per our published rules we don't remove reviews or message board accounts etc unless there are very exceptional circumstances. People shouldn't create them if they may want them removed at a later date.
Ninebythree could be a real asset to this website, but not unless he grows up and stops acting the bollix. To date he causes more trouble than anything else and this helps nobody. We value clients that give us good feedback and suggest good ideas, but not when that's 5% of their personality and the other 95% is trouble making.
Kliati - I PM'd you about the issue you raised that a mod here may think you are ninebythree.
Ninebythree is welcome back here after his ban expires as is big daddy 69. I can wipe the slate clean and start again with both if that's what they want, but I do think they both need to consider why I banned them for a week in the first place, as they were certainly not faultless.
In answer to his question about mods. The reason people like him were overlooked when I was looking for mods is that I can't have mods who lose their temper and post people's real names, addresses etc. Not everyone is cut out to be a mod, and it is not an insult to anyone if I don't consider them mod material, it is just that I don't think there personality is right for modding. Mods are no better or higher than other users of this website, you don't need to be a mod to be valued, listen to, respected etc in this community.
Yes I did give mods the right to ban people. Me and my staff are here 7 days a week watching over mods, so no mod is going to be going on a wild banning spree of his own accord, but constant messers registering with the only aim of causing trouble were becoming a problem, so I felt it would help if mods could ban these people themselves rather than always have to wait for me or Sarah or Nicole to do it. Now me and Sarah and Nicole just keep a check on the ban list to check nobody is being banned without very good reason.
Pat x
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Daddy, my fingers hurt from typing.Big daddy
I will acknowledge that most of what drove me to sending you and ninebythree on a week's holiday was ninebythree not you. However you were in cahoots with him in places so I don't think my banning you was unfair, there was just less reason to ban you than there was ninebythree, but I still think there was enough reason.
Regards your comments on my profile I complained about, yes I can take a joke and yes I was quite happy to have a joke with you, but I'm a woman and you won't find many women laughing their socks off after you keep going on about them as if to say they are an old whore, e.g. wizards sleeve, teeth fallen out etc.
Pat x
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