I was 1 of the 36 in Operation Quest

[AverageDublinPunter]

Yes hun that’s why I said I work alone but would prefer to work with another girl sometimes, for companionship and safety. But due to the law I can’t nor will. Been doing this 3 years now hunie

See lads told ye she knows what she is doing. Girl is a pro. Give her a break.

[Dom Dunn]

She is an escort not a solicitor give her a break. I doubt any of the other girls here know anymore about the law. Its complex. At least she is an Escort coming on the forum giving her opinion.

Sadly it is not a very informed opinion and probably governed by a certain amount of self interest. Maybe because she see a way of increasing her income or maybe because she has some form of protection from the cops and is going out to bat for them. I have met a number of escorts over the years who would be friendly with clients who are in the cops and they often got a heads up. Legalisation is the only sensible option and should be introduced but I'm afraid that is not happening in my life time. Having visited hundreds of places of sexual entertainment in Dublin over decades I can honestly say that 95% plus of venues are not populated by controlled, trafficked or coerced individuals. There is and always has been an organised element and some of this is nasty and should be rooted out but much of the organisation is just the acting out of a business model. A lot of ladies who work in Ireland would have no real means of establishing themselves over here without the help of organisational assistance. There are networks set up around Europe which facilitate flows of workers and yes some are not run by very nice people. Many however, are reasonably fairly run. A number of ladies who have worked here for example arrived via Germany, where they worked in brothels, and were recruited because they believed ( and in in the past rightly) that they could make more money in Ireland. They could not be considered fully independent in the sense that they would not have full control over where they operated from or what they would be charged for accommodation etc. but they are not controlled in the sense that they work in fear of some beer soaked lazy scroat coming in at the end of the day demanding they hand over their hard earned cash. Let's call a spade a spade here Operation Quest (SIC) was little to do with rooting out the cancer of exploitation but all about pandering to the foot stamping of the virtue signaling feminist hoards who alarmingly seem to haunt the corridors of power in this so called republic these days.

[TheIncredibleSulk]

I am so disappointed with E-I as they are doing nothing to clean things up and just giving ammunination to Ruhama, they need to do more to protect clients and escorts or there won't be any soon.
I know its only an advertising company and you are based in Spain so are safe and can carry on making huge profits from us but you need to do something like pull all adverts that offer duos as that is illegal and puts clients and escorts at risk, there is more but stop making the snowballs for Ruhama to fire so easily at us.

[TheIncredibleSulk]

Yes thats right,he did
Because the guards convinced him that they weren't there for him,they just needed his help to stop
the real criminals apparently

so he helped
but there was no "real criminals"
then he got convicted for visiting an escort

and now we have people coming on here trying to convince others that the guards aren't looking for convictions of us
and we shouldn't worry when they stop us,they aren't after us!

fuck me!
now i'm going to bed!

I feel sorry for that punter, just an ordinary guy who just didnt know much really but yes the Guards are looking for us clients otherwise he would not have been convicted. Its part of their job so we should not be surprised at it either

[TonyB]

Why use such stupid and broken logic?

1. Ends do not justify the means. In theory, yes, if every single client was put in prison, then there would be no money for escorts and no money for pimps. That does not mean it is the correct solution, or even the most effective solution, for tackling the problem.
2. This law targets clients even when sex between the client and escort is fully consenting. It is unethical to have laws which criminalise people who are not doing anything wrong or immoral.

Well said. And that's tackling a problem that Ruhama would have us believe exists.
As someone else said, legalise it.
This sorts all the problems.

[Corner2Corner]

Well said. And that's tackling a problem that Ruhama would have us believe exists.
As someone else said, legalise it.
This sorts all the problems.

If we are to believe what the so called independent escorts say there is a large amount of trafficked girls . We cant just turn a blind eye to this.

[TonyB]

If we are to believe what the so called independent escorts say there is a large amount of trafficked girls . We cant just turn a blind eye to this.

I have spoken and been friendly with many escorts. I have never seen any evidence of this.

In fairness what do I know, more than many, more than the nonsense I read in the media (such as women chained to beds), enough to know Ruhama (Or as they should be called the nuns from "The Magdalene Launderies") have an agenda.

But no, I can only form an opinion based on what I have experienced.

And let's be fair, what would an "independent" escort claim? They've been pedalling that sales pitch as long as I've been here.

I don't know, I can argue with you either way.

[Corner2Corner]

I feel sorry for that punter, just an ordinary guy who just didnt know much really but yes the Guards are looking for us clients otherwise he would not have been convicted. Its part of their job so we should not be surprised at it either

Dont feel sorry for him. Feel sorry for people who get cancer, feel sorry for sick children dont ever feel sorry for a punter. Escorts would hang us out to dry in the blink of an eye most actually resent us but need the money, Ei clearly dont care either. We are on our own so punt at your own peril. If caught dont expect sympathy from Escorts, Ei, other punters, the justice system, the general public. We are modern day lepers.

[BIGBAGDOM]

Basically set up an account to share what happened to me last saturday night.

I was contemplating the last two weeks if I should or not, but fuck it... (the reason im only saying it now)

I was caught in an apparement block in Northwood two weeks ago. To the poeple who know the location I parked my car outside Spar and walked over to the apparments.

When I was leaving the place, walking back towards the Road I was approached by a Male Garda who showed me his ID and asked if I could talk to him and hs colleague for a few minutes in the Car.

I agree and I got into the car which was only 3/4 cars up to where he stopped me. There was a female Garda in the driver Seat. I really cant remeber the exact coversation word for word but it basically went like:

Female Garda- Asked my Name, address and if I had any Id on me. Note, she is writing the whole duration of the coversationr- I dont know what she is writing in her notebook I could not see.

Male Garda - We know what you have been up to, we seen you enter the appartment, are only concern is the girls we only want to know if the girls are safe, there involved in a highly violent gang who control them, beat them regulary and dont let them out of the apparment.

Me- I think you might have the wrong person. I dont know what you are talking about

Male Garda- We are not stupid, what were you doing in the apparment then

Me- I was looking after some Business

Male Garda - what Business, we know what you were doing explain to me why you were in the appatrment

Me- I was looking after some Business

This line of question and answer went on for a few minutes

Female Garda - Do you have a phone

Me- I do but Im not handing it to you because I have done nothing wrong

Male Garda - Have you been doing any drugs tonight, theres a strong smell of cannabis coming from you( this was a complete lie, I dont smoke weed, I knew exacly were it was going)

Me- I dont do drugs

Female Garda - Were going to search you under the drugs offence act(or whatever its called) because I belive you have drugs in your possession

I step outsde the car, male Garda goes straight for my phone and barely searches me. We both go back into the car. Male Garda gets in the back with me.

Male Gards- Whats the pin (phone was turned off, garda turns phone on and asks for pin)

Me- I will not be giving you my pin as I have doing nothing wrong

This is were they both start getting real aggressive at me, the Male Garda has his face right in my face the whole time below even when not talking.

Female Garda- Do you think we are stupid you fucking prick we know what you have been doing we saw you.

Male Garda- I can fucking arrest you right now, you wont be so smart then you prick.we know what you were doing in the apparments. This is you're last chance to tell us before it becomes series and you're last chance to get your say get your say.

Me- I wont be making any further comment if you are going to arrest me until I get legal advise which I am legally entitiled too

Male Garda - Fuck off then and get out of the car

Female Garda - You will be hearing from us soon

Me- Can I get my phone back then, you have no right to take my property.

Female -Go ahead and make a complient to the obudsman

Me- Can I have you're names and badge numbers

Male Garda- Go to reception in Santry Garda station tomorrow you will be able to find us easy enough. Get out of the fucking Car now.

They kept the phone, they know Im not going to go to the garda staion and give them more details about myself to get a punter phone back.

Anyway, at this point I just left. Now I would be a confident person who would not get intimidated easily, but it was fairly intimidating especially when they ambushed me out of no where


I have a few Rules I follow that mght help others; I always park 5 minute walk away, I never apprach the door ith my phone out and always get the address before I leave the car. I use a punter phone and always turn off once I enter the building

I work as a Solicitor and this makes no sense to me, were they plain clothes officers then?
If true and I have my doubts, you have done yourself no favours by posting it up here, Ben

[Punter08]

Does everyone hear the words they type. Nobody is giving any regard to the fact that there could be controlled girls being forced to have sex with random men like yourselves. All you care about is that there are girls there to have sex with when you feel like it.

You're putting Ben on a pedestal, a true hero for the way he handled it.

Why would the guards be polite to you. You don't deserve it. You're breaking the law and you don't give a shit so long as you get your jollies. Those guards know you will pay and fuck a trafficked girl without a care in the world.

You're feeding criminal activities whether you like it or not. There is no way you have never been with a trafficked girl.

Not one person said so far that although they don't agree with the guards, if they save some controlled girls well then something good will come of this. Everyone just cares the can use an escort at their leisure.

When the shit hits the fan people show their true colors, all everyone cares about is themselves and their illegal sex. Nobody showed any consideration for the girls or their welfare in general.

Disgraceful self serving behavior.

I'm not pro Guarda but if this operation they're are running saves even one girl from a life of rape, is that not a great thing.

Would you not think about something like that instead of worrying about phones and badge numbers and Guardas abusing their power making you the victim. You're not the victim. You're the law breaker.

I'm not on a crusade with this. But maybe they are building evidence to obtain a warrant. A judge won't sign off on a warrant on the say of a guard alone. There could be a bigger picture in this and maybe the guards are building to something. If the end result is to the benefit of certain girls then I'm all for that.

Gullible idiots, really. Cute enough to buy a burner, sneak off from the wife and park a distance away and scan the area. Those are not the actions of gullible people.

It's not an illegal interview. It's note taking. Nobody made them speak. They spoke willingly.

Plain clothes guards wouldn't have shoulder numbers.

The root of the problem is clients. The pimps can't function without clients. The law can't be broken without clients. If you attack the clients you attack the problem. It's easy to give out about this operation but sometimes you have to be objective and try and understand. Too many people here are too close to it so see what they want to see.

Those notes from that notebook can be used in court. If you speak you own your words forever. You can be charged without ever making a statement. If they believe they have sufficient evidence then a statement makes no difference.

Garda tone makes no difference. A guard does not have to be polite to a law breaker. He only has to get his result.

No trolling. I believe the safety and well being of women and children to be of paramount importance.

If the guards can frighten one or more men into talking then maybe they can build a picture of what is going on behind the scenes. If they happen upon forced girls then they will cut a deal with any man caught if he offers up proof as they see it of control over girls.

If this is just the Guarda pulling off a pr stunt. Well then fuck them.

But if they are looking into more sinister actions then for this time I would have to agree with the guards, if the end result is the benefit of certain girls and the potential to lock up women abusers.

As for the Misuse of Drugs Act, that's a cheap shot as nobody can refuse a drug search or detention if the guards 'believe' they have witnessed behavior that falls into their profiling. It's bullshit from the guards buts it's legal bullshit and will stand up in court. Edgy behavior, breaking eye contact, flushed face or sweaty hands. That's reason enough to warrant a drug search or detainment.

That mostly sounds sensible. If they legally have your phone they will look at whatever they want, whether they will or can disclose it is a legal matter on its own.

How much is speculation. They picked 36 individuals and were spot on with each individual. So they know exactly what they are talking about.

If they have kept phones and check the buildings cctv along with checking the messages and phone calls to a number they can prove is a working girl, now they have the proof to later detain the person they took the phone off surely.

If it's a known brothel address and that address is on the phone then denying you were there indicates guilt.

If those 36 men are brought before a judge on the evidence the guards have now, brothel address, working girls phone numbers, texts and calls to the phone along with cctv of those men coming out of the brothel, most buildings have cctv globes in them.

Would it be so hard for a judge to convict on the evidence before him considering all those men denied being in the apartments they were in yet it has been proven that they were in them.

Absolutely not.

I think I'm just hopeful that part of the thinking behind this operation is too gain knowledge of which girls need a helping hand. The guards didn't just decide to watch brothels for something to do.

Conversations were had and decisions were made by high ranking members. However it happens the guards will gain new information and knowledge as a result of this operation. Maybe some girls are saved in the process.

So let me get this straight. According to you the guards knew the girls where trafficked and operating as sex workers against their will but despite this the guards let 36 men go in and have sex with these women so they could stop them coming out of the building with the hope that they would buckle under questioning.

Away back to your cave Mr or Missus troll