I was 1 of the 36 in Operation Quest

[FetishCherry]

Original post deleted - Floki

Stonie, as much i dont like to say this,(and its against my interest in running my business ) i have to say that its little a girl/escort can do for the client. Once is proved u have been with an escort, visiting her and pay her , little the girl can say in your advantage. The only thing she can say its he didnt paid for sex or anything sexual related .. Ok... and many guys actually not pay for sex , as its seen and understood as intercourse BUT from that meeting with Garda i had when he visited my place when i had a problem with a client i understood that the law is not formulated as 'paying for sex' but paying for anything who lead to 'sexual gratification' so this can be anything , anything who dont imply intercorse but anything who lead for the guy to a sexual gratification . People who 'create' this law made sure nothing and nobody will 'escape' . I dont agree with the posts who say that if u visit brothels u are f..ked and if u visit independents u not.... dont forget is an offence to pay for sex its doesnt say with independent lady or brothel , u can be in trouble anyway... the difference is a brothel will be between more likely places watched by Garda rather then an independent lady working alone ... but the offence its still an offence with anybody really offering escort services . Its a risk to visit escorts this days? Yes ,it is . You have 2 options: or u evaluate the risk where is higher u dont go where is lower u go or u just stop visiting girls . This is how i see the punters positions this days

[Forceuser]

i have to say that its little a girl/escort can do for the client. Once is proved u have been with an escort, visiting her and pay her , little the girl can say in your advantage.

Speaking as a grown man,who makes his own decisions and accepts the possible consequences of those decisions,
i would never ask nor expect an escort to put themselves out for me.
and yet one or two have anyway

[Forceuser]

I dont agree with the posts who say that if u visit brothels u are f..ked and if u visit independents u not.... dont forget is an offence to pay for sex its doesnt say with independent lady or brothel , u can be in trouble anyway... the difference is a brothel will be between more likely places watched by Garda rather then an independent lady working alone ... but the offence its still an offence with anybody really offering escort services . Its a risk to visit escorts this days? Yes ,it is . You have 2 options: or u evaluate the risk where is higher u dont go where is lower u go or u just stop visiting girls . This is how i see the punters positions this days

As usual Cherry,you've explained the situation perfectly!

[Stonie]

Stonie, as much i dont like to say this,(and its against my interest in running my business ) i have to say that its little a girl/escort can do for the client. Once is proved u have been with an escort, visiting her and pay her , little the girl can say in your advantage. The only thing she can say its he didnt paid for sex or anything sexual related .. Ok... and many guys actually not pay for sex , as its seen and understood as intercourse BUT from that meeting with Garda i had when he visited my place when i had a problem with a client i understood that the law is not formulated as 'paying for sex' but paying for anything who lead to 'sexual gratification' so this can be anything , anything who dont imply intercorse but anything who lead for the guy to a sexual gratification . People who 'create' this law made sure nothing and nobody will 'escape' . I dont agree with the posts who say that if u visit brothels u are f..ked and if u visit independents u not.... dont forget is an offence to pay for sex its doesnt say with independent lady or brothel , u can be in trouble anyway... the difference is a brothel will be between more likely places watched by Garda rather then an independent lady working alone ... but the offence its still an offence with anybody really offering escort services . Its a risk to visit escorts this days? Yes ,it is . You have 2 options: or u evaluate the risk where is higher u dont go where is lower u go or u just stop visiting girls . This is how i see the punters positions this days

I know all this, saying you didn't pay when there won't get you off, even if there for a massage you won't either. These places where escorts share, the client in most cases walking in blind and its a real winner for the Guards, no shortage of guys coming and going and these escorts are going to be economical with the truth at best, you heard the old saying Too many cooks spoil the Broth, same here.

I don't agree with you Cherry but you're missing the key point here, enforcement starts for real and I can tell you now if you visit Brothels and are caught there in the apartment/leaving it, you are going down, if there is a trafficked girl there too and most won't have any idea, its much more serious and the Guards and the Courts will really let you have it and the local Rags love that story and the general public will be shaking the Guards hands and saying well done guys, that's another one off the streets... thats the truth... sadly we are not painting ourselves in a good light to anyone here

Anyway Its these escorts themselves here that will hang their clients, at least with 100% Independent escorts the Guards don't hold the Trump Card and its this Trump Card that will bring the clients down and get successful convictions so its vital that clients get smart quickly

[homealone1]

not assumptions cherry, we know the Guards are targeting the brothels, nothing can be gained at all be monitoring Independent escorts, yet the escorts continue to share, I get why they do it but its the money here first and company and I have known trafficked ladies to be in the apartment too but they have not made any effort to change to change it butting both the clients and themselves at risk. Pimps are blending right in here and are loving the whole setup and making a fortune in the process

Stone, you claim to know trafficked womennhave been in certain apartments, what have you done to help them.

If you were a decent human you would have notified the authorities and given them all the details to let them help these victims.

You are either making up bullshit or a person that is happy to see girls trafficked for sex and ignore it.

[johnwin530]

The Ruhama p.r department will be are having a field day with this thread ,A few more the journal.ie articles to be constructed ,Cherry picking is the order of the day ,Sarah Benson can be so obsessive , "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and made up statistics."

[Stonie]

Stone, you claim to know trafficked womennhave been in certain apartments, what have you done to help them.

If you were a decent human you would have notified the authorities and given them all the details to let them help these victims.

You are either making up bullshit or a person that is happy to see girls trafficked for sex and ignore it.

You are clueless as usual and again making incorrect assumptions. When did I say I ignore it? I didn't. Have you reported yourself or is it a case of its not my place, let someone else do it?
If I'm positive the Girl is trafficked I just call the local Garda station or send an email and that's what I did and have reported just last week too sunshine,
You however come on here posting stuff with no substance and when people put real questions to you, you avoid as got no answers and instead you hide away and come out when you think the coast is clear. You hate to hear the truth don't you?
Anything else you'd like to get off your chest while we are on the subject then?, so we can move on?

[Punter08]

Escorts would hang us out to dry but did you really expect anything different?
Why would Escorts care about you or any client.
people they don't personally know and who they will probably never see again, they don't care and why should they.
If you are apprehended by the police you only got yourself to blame for being there, don't expect escorts or others to be there for you as they won't

I think that post is a bit unfair. Some might do that but a professional sex worker wouldn't. It would harm any future business for them.

[Floki]

Some posts have been deleted due to going off topic.
Please keep on track or the thread could be closed.


Thank you.

[RayDonovan]

Anybody punting at the moment with all this activity needs to see a psychiatrist.

I would have thought it's one of the safest times to go see an escort. The raids part of operation quest have been done and now they'll be concentrating on following up making cases against the 36 who were caught. I don't think there's a huge amount of danger right now in going to see an escort who you know is discreet about her business.