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    Some great answers here. Has really helped with the article so thanks!

    It is a reason I came back on here. You lot know more than me about certain things in the industry, so it is right you drive the content!

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    the worst advice ever, to tell guys to say nothing.

    you do have to give them certain general details and TBH be confident and smart and give them these details. You can be awkward and a smart ass with our boys in blue and you will lose in the long run.
    be smart, be polite and don't be a Gobshite
    Last edited by Good4u2; 28-11-18 at 09:58.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Good4u2 View Post
    the worst advice ever, to tell guys to say nothing.

    you do have to give them certain general details and TBH be confident and smart and give them these details. You can be awkward and a smart ass with our boys in blue and you will lose in the long run.
    be smart, be polite and don't be a Gobshite
    So, succinctly, what would you say? Would you go the 'oh, I am meeting someone, is she an escort, I didn't know?' route?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Good4u2 View Post
    the worst advice ever, to tell guys to say nothing.

    you do have to give them certain general details and TBH be confident and smart and give them these details. You can be awkward and a smart ass with our boys in blue and you will lose in the long run.
    be smart, be polite and don't be a Gobshite
    "The right to silence and the right not to incriminate oneself are generally recognised international standards in law. Article 38.1 of Bunreacht na hEireann (the Constitution of Ireland) and Article 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights both protect citizens against being forced to make statements which result in admissions of guilt. The following words must be spoken by the Gardaí before they are allowed to take a statement from a suspect:

    “You are not obliged to say anything unless you wish to do so, but anything you say will be taken down in writing and may be given in evidence.”

    These words are known as the caution. It means that you must be informed that there is no legal obligation on you to say anything or to make a statement."


    Gardaí (and police generally) joke [Only it is NOT a joke] “You are not obliged to say anything, but anything you do say will be taken down in writing and changed, twisted, and generally f**ked around until you are found guilty”

    You ARE NOT obliged to say anything. SO DON’T!

    No wonder Good4u2 has bars. Take his advice and you will have iron bars!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Ward View Post
    So, succinctly, what would you say? Would you go the 'oh, I am meeting someone, is she an escort, I didn't know?' route?
    No you could always just say you are going to meet my girlfriend
    But she too hot to for me and she way out my league , so I visit her instead in her place to save her the embarrassment of being in my company

    But seriously best to say you meeting a friend or a relative and then say I got to meet them now shortly thanks you. Walk away from the area and ring or text the Lady after to say you cancel appointment. Better for yourself and her , as you could be watch where you go.

    Another is to say you met a friend or relative and was leaving as they stop you. Unless they catch you in the apartment , then they nothing to prove on you. Unless you cave in and admit it.

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    I can understand Good4u2's advice if it just means not deliberately or even accidentally antagonizing Gardaí. But even then, need to be careful. All police forces use "friendliness" to get people to incriminate themselves.

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    What i am getting is 'don't 'no comment', make up an excuse, and get the hell out of the area without annoying Joe Garda, as likely they don't want to lift you unless they have to??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Ward View Post
    So, succinctly, what would you say? Would you go the 'oh, I am meeting someone, is she an escort, I didn't know?' route?

    If you talk too much they will just to encouraged to question you further. If you start to defend yourself, you just appear guilty. An innocent man has no need to defend himself. If you tell a story and it is checked and proved wrong, are you going to change it? Won't look good.

    If later, you engage a lawyer, it is likely he can come up with a better defence than you can. That defence is useless if you have told a different story.

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    Are the guys who are advising the "Say nothing, speak to my solicitor" route basically accepting at that point that they are going to court? And that their solicitor will argue their case then.
    Or do they think their solicitor will be able to prevent the case going to court and there will be no publicity involved at all? I'd just like that made a little clearer. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Sweet Guy View Post
    Another is to say you met a friend or relative and was leaving as they stop you. Unless they catch you in the apartment , then they nothing to prove on you. Unless you cave in and admit it.
    If you've engaged with them to this degree they'll have asked to look at your phone and they'll see texts and phonecalls exchanged with an escort's phone, half an hour beforehand and again when you arrived. Pretty stories about relatives and girlfriends sound lame then.

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