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    I can not say I support it but I think everybody must make own decision.
    In my country it is very easy to make an appointment for the operation until the 12nd week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabel taylor View Post
    What if it's a child of ten she presented to her doctor alot earlier and could of had an abortion

    Why endanger a child

    Do u object to the use of morning after pills can be used now up to a week
    Abortion pill is similar just a supped up Verison


    I don't object to morning after pills, and I'm not fully against abortion. But there are a lot of means of protecting yourself and not getting pregnant, why not use them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CurvyNina View Post
    I don't object to morning after pills, and I'm not fully against abortion. But there are a lot of means of protecting yourself and not getting pregnant, why not use them?
    U saying all contraceptive is 100 per cent proof
    I know girls who where on the pill used a condom who gotten pregnant and even morning after not 100 per cent going to work...
    Women seeking abortion are not.just all.sluts who go barebacking coz sure.just nip to.london for an abortion. That bullshit. Condom breakage etc etc other medication affected ur pill simply vomitting the day u take your pill can all.affect your fertile the only method is no sex

    So.should all women who don't want babies should just not have sex coz that is the only 100 per cent method

    And for this ten year old should she have used better contraception when was been abused by her uncle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Josephine View Post
    The case in Ireland where the girl reported her friend for having an abortion was because the girl went to the toilet and found a dead foetus in it.

    Had the pregnant lady been given proper support that would never have happened 2 traumatised people.

    Can not imagine what either were going through.
    I don't find this plausible, I cast doubt on this completely. The morning after pill is not an abortion pill. It does 1 of 3 things to prevent pregnancy.

    It either temporarily prevents release of an egg, prevents fertilization of an egg or prevents a fertilized egg attaching itself to the uterus. The morning after pill does not terminate a pregnancy, it prevents pregnancy. If the fertilized egg cannot attach to the uterus, it cannot develop into a foetus.

    I support choice, in this day & age for a woman or couple not to have a legal choice, is beyond comprehension to me. Why force women to travel to avail of termination services? Then these women have to travel back after the procedure. Doctors in the UK can refuse to sign termination forms on religious grounds, so not every Dr in the UK is prepared to authorise a termination but the choice is still available for those who need this service.

    To deny women of the choice, is a form of control in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sexy Sandy 69 View Post
    I don't find this plausible, I cast doubt on this completely. The morning after pill is not an abortion pill. It does 1 of 3 things to prevent pregnancy.

    It either temporarily prevents release of an egg, prevents fertilization of an egg or prevents a fertilized egg attaching itself to the uterus. The morning after pill does not terminate a pregnancy, it prevents pregnancy. If the fertilized egg cannot attach to the uterus, it cannot develop into a foetus.

    I support choice, in this day & age for a woman or couple not to have a legal choice, is beyond comprehension to me. Why force women to travel to avail of termination services? Then these women have to travel back after the procedure. Doctors in the UK can refuse to sign termination forms on religious grounds, so not every Dr in the UK is prepared to authorise a termination but the choice is still available for those who need this service.

    To deny women of the choice, is a form of control in my opinion.

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    The post you are referring to is not about morning after pills but about abortifacient (abortion inducing) drugs usually purchased online.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/abortion-pi...92557-May2017/

    http://time.com/4531429/medication-abortion-ireland/

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabel taylor View Post
    U saying all contraceptive is 100 per cent proof
    I know girls who where on the pill used a condom who gotten pregnant and even morning after not 100 per cent going to work...
    Women seeking abortion are not.just all.sluts who go barebacking coz sure.just nip to.london for an abortion. That bullshit. Condom breakage etc etc other medication affected ur pill simply vomitting the day u take your pill can all.affect your fertile the only method is no sex

    So.should all women who don't want babies should just not have sex coz that is the only 100 per cent method

    And for this ten year old should she have used better contraception when was been abused by her uncle
    As I previously said I am okay with abortion in the extreme cases of rape, health issues that could affect the woman, a foetus with problems.

    Not al contraceptives are 100 percent effective, but they do work. The cases in which you can get pregnant when using contraception are rare.
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    My comments refer to Ireland, Rep. of, only,
    not to our boreal brethren,north and east of "The Border", (May the Lord praise, protect and heap bounteous profit on their heads, each and every last one of them).

    In the Republic of Ireland, abortion or artificial termination of pregnancy, is currently, only legal in two situations - where medical staff deem it necessary to save the life (but not necessarily the health) of the mother and secondly, where medical experts deem that the mother is at risk of death by suicide if the pregnancy continues.
    This has led to various cases of questionable judgment where medics may have religious scruples or may fear being prosecuted under abortion laws if they do initiate a termination for either of the above reasons.
    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-1...uality/8045568

    The law on abortion in Ireland, as it stands, has got to where it is through many phases, including
    The 1983 Abortion Referendum which established the equal right to life of the unborn and the mother.

    The 1992 Abortion Referendum which established that it is legal to provide information on abortion (services) in Ireland and established the right to travel out of Ireland for an abortion or whatever.

    That 1992 referendum arose from the infamous 'X' Case, where a young teenage girl and her parents were detained at Dublin Airport by police as they were en route to England. She was pregnant as a result of rape and they were travelling abroad to access abortion services. Eventually they were allowed to travel.

    The Protection of Life during Pregnancy Act 2013,the passing of which was partly inspired by the controversy surrounding the death of Savita Halappaanavar.

    Another recent controversial case involved a young woman asylum seeker here in 2014,who found herself pregnant here having been raped else here. She sought a termination on the grounds of being suicidal but the case was hummed and hawed over and a child was in time delivered by caesarian section.
    Lots of aspects of the law relating to abortion in Ireland, need to be tidied up. Leo Varadkar has promised another referendum on abortion in 2018 but no firm date or detail on the wording are yet forthcoming.
    Personally in my opinion I would support limited abortion in the cases of rape, incest, fatal fetal abnormality(where life outside the womb is non - viable), where the life of the woman is threatened by continuation of a pregnancy or indeed if there is a serious long term threat to the health or well-being of the mother. I would possibly also support some quite limited, early date abortion in the first few weeks.

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    I just leave it here


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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Josephine View Post
    Whatever your views on abortion this is the most idiotic video I have ever watched.
    Irish Josephine, with all respect, what exactly you don't agree with in this video?

    I believe abortion should be legal, but this guy convinced me that it is not moral. There is no contradiction: legal things don't have to be moral, unless you live in religious society. By the way the same applies to punting: it is not moral, but it should be legal.

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    I'm pro-choice all the way. Terrible that there are regions in the "modern world" that take these decisions are taken away from women. Shameful tbh.

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