If we use escorts does that mean we do not love our wives or girlfriends?

[MeathMan]

I have only joined this message board and I would like to say hi to everyone.

I do not agree with cheating but a man must satisfy all of his needs rather he has to pay or not. I myself am single but have numerous sex partners. They should be paying me

[Tommy Singh]

Yes, but if two people really love and care about each other, sex might not be their biggest priority. Sometimes men are inclined to put their Willy first.

this is a very important thing and something that alot of men just dont realise about women.There is a time for sex and a time for romance and cuddling and women tend to go through phases of each of these.As i said before if all that was important to a woman was sex then escorts could not do their job at all.No way.Women place a huge emphasis on the kissing and cuddling in their private lives.Its a huge issue to them and a very big thing.Thats feeling of being speicial and wanted.

A shag is just a shag to a woman but the feelings and emotions of being in love are far more than a shag.Alot of guys the shag is the big thing.

Some guys dont place the same priority on sex as they do on quality time and simply enjoying the company of a woman.Give me a situation where i can have a shag or spend quality time with a girl and i will take the quality time any day of the week.The shag may come later when it suits both parties.

The very fact that a person can shag a blow up doll says it all.

Westside.

[MeathMan]

this is a very important thing and something that alot of men just dont realise about women.There is a time for sex and a time for romance and cuddling and women tend to go through phases of each of these.As i said before if all that was important to a woman was sex then escorts could not do their job at all.No way.Women place a huge emphasis on the kissing and cuddling in their private lives.Its a huge issue to them and a very big thing.Thats feeling of being speicial and wanted.

A shag is just a shag to a woman but the feelings and emotions of being in love are far more than a shag.Alot of guys the shag is the big thing.

Some guys dont place the same priority on sex as they do on quality time and simply enjoying the company of a woman.Give me a situation where i can have a shag or spend quality time with a girl and i will take the quality time any day of the week.The shag may come later when it suits both parties.

The very fact that a person can shag a blow up doll says it all.

Westside.

Correct, I simply shag and then go. I do not give the lady a chance to get too fond of me.

[wiseone]

westside,

i like you would choose the cuddling.
I know it is time to change, because i'm paying to cuddle :-)

You're last line, read very poignant,

until I considered the numerous models of vibrator?

[Quarterpoundher]

Men are genetically programmed to want to procreate with as many women as possible. We are made to spread our seed.
Women are genetically programmed to find a man to provide offspring & security. Case in point is how often we see ugly, wealthy men with beautiful wives.

Only thing is Nads you are attributing the biological imperative to suit you argument for men but not applying it on woman using the same criteria.

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The cave man theory

You say men are genetically programmed to put it about as much as humanly possible as our genes think we are still avoiding saber tooth tigers and finding an appropriately shaped stick lying around to use as a club and time is very much of the essence and there is merit in that as we are only two steps removed from what we were for tens of thousands of years and our society and behavior has changed far faster perhaps then our DNA is able to keep up and it would be unwise to dispel how much what served us well for eons still influence us under the façade of modernity…..but…

That’s all well and dandy and perfect for men to use to justify cheating but if someone uses the above for themselves then they also have to apply it to women’s DNA not keeping pace with societal events either.

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The cave woman theory

You saying that woman going for wealthy but ugly men was because of the evolutionary tactic of finding the best mate for her environment is wrong because if that were true and applying the same rule of thumb as men being driven by needing to procreate like no tomorrow because his genes are still in the stone age environment they would in fact go for the biggest and baddest brute they could find as for 99.999% of our history this was the most suitable type to provide and protect for them but your super imposing our modern view of what it is to be a good source of protection and provision over what a woman’s genes still in the same stone age environment that men use as an excuse would be directing them to big dopey Neanderthal fellas.

It is their cognitive brain that is directing them to wealthy but ugly men and not anything genetic and unless you can’t pass a cave without instinctively weighing up its usefulness as an abode to see out the next ice age or its commanding view of the passing herds of Mammoths then you also have to concede that using our genes as an excuse is no longer valid, a factor yes but an all encompassing excuse and get out of jail free card no. It just does not wash anymore.

[TheNads]

But QPH, you read me too literally. For big bad brute in caveman times, read well healed, wealthy man in our times. Whoever can provide best, in whatever times are relevant.
At no point do I ever condone men cheating on their women, I merely state that it is generally more difficult for us to be faithful due to our genetic make-up.
I also state that we are given the power of reason & decision making & that's what sets us apart from other animals.

[wiseone]

I viewed a quality documentary, several years ago. Horizon, or some other.
In which, it portrayed that at one part of the menstrual cycle; here in the modern world,
women lust for the seed of a mean looking brute (foto-fit, angled eyebrows, aggressive).
In the other part, they can see the danger in this type of 'alfamale',
and so, are happy to pass off the alfa's kid to some softer, resourceful male!

w

[Quarterpoundher]

But QPH, you read me too literally. For big bad brute in caveman times, read well healed, wealthy man in our times. Whoever can provide best, in whatever times are relevant.
At no point do I ever condone men cheating on their women, I merely state that it is generally more difficult for us to be faithful due to our genetic make-up.
I also state that we are given the power of reason & decision making & that's what sets us apart from other animals.

Fair points and well made. If I took you literally then I’m sorry and was not saying you condoned cheating its just this was trashed out a while back and the general vibe I got then as now was that it was ok to cheat as its out of our control.

I take on board what you say about whoever can provide best in whatever time but that ignores the other side of the biological imperative that she would only go for a financially wealthy man over a genetically wealthy man and take a hit on his genes not being the best around and so her progeny not being all that they could be as she is genetically predisposed to be very choosy as she only has a limited time to get it right where as men are not constrained by that so if you take out all modern factors and only go with age old imperatives I think that women would go more for genetics over bank balance.

[rover]

I viewed a quality documentary, several years ago. Horizon, or some other.
In which, it portrayed that at one part of the menstrual cycle; here in the modern world,
women lust for the seed of a mean looking brute (foto-fit, angled eyebrows, aggressive).
In the other part, they can see the danger in this type of 'alfamale',
and so, are happy to pass off the alfa's kid to some softer, resourceful male!

w

All this may or may not be the case, but that applies to the seeking of a partner, before the bond of marriage, but once entering into that bond we all the the difference between right and wrong, except me it seems.

[Tommy Singh]

westside,

i like you would choose the cuddling.
I know it is time to change, because i'm paying to cuddle :-)

You're last line, read very poignant,

until I considered the numerous models of vibrator?

thanks to me,kinky will be upgrading from a bicycle to a car.

Dont get me wrong i like sex.In fact i burst my balls laughing at ppl that say "i am very highly sexed".Sorry we all are and i have never heard anyone say they hate sex.

The way i see it is i like women period.I like chatting with them and like having a laugh with them.I like good shag but i also like the kisses ,cuddles and everything else that comes with enjoying the company of another.The bjs,anals,fucking whatever are really a big issue with me unless the girl wants to but me i dont really care if we are hanging from the ceiling or lying on the floor.Now i like bjs and the like but they arent a huge issue with me at all.I just think guys should give women more of a chance.Their humour for sexual activity varies greatly and this should be taken into account.Bare in mind im speaking of non escort here.

As far as escorts go.When i did call i just let them do whatever they want.As far as i was concerned i was just enjoying the company of a woman.The nitty gritty stuff just wasnt important at all.

They just love shoes,
Westside.