The Ethics Of Escorting.

[FredLopez]

Dead right. And wrong. Escorts don't stigmatise it. Escorts and clients all stigmatise it as one community.

they contribute to it shall we say as they don't fully accept it as an ethical business and most are deep down embarrassed about what they do so keep it all under wraps, your doctor, mechanic or therapist does not do this, the client is embarrassed too as he believes he's a right eejit as he has to pay for sex

[FredLopez]

Why even bother? It's the same wind up every time. So I'm not gonna respond to him, but to you.

Kate McGrew is one of the most genuinely brave people I know of. There is literally nothing in it for her to be "out" and yet she brought attention on herself for something she believes in - making cowards of all the rest of us that benefit - including forum trolls with women issues and a prescription for monotony.

The cost to her must be enormous. Having to deal with judgment from friends and family. Not to mention the cost to her business ( I won't even do much wondering about how she deals with being recognised in hotels, by landlords, by nosey neighbours, etc.)

Fair fuckin' dues, Kate, from a man hiding behind internet anonymity. You got balls, girl.

have a bit of wit, it not a wind up, get off your high horse and cop on, I WISH ALL THESE GIRLS THE BEST OF LUCK AS THESE GIRLS GOT GUTS

[JayM93]

you are contradicting yourself here, most escorts don't really accept it as a legitimate business and dont pay income tax on their earnings and are afraid to tell others about what they so how can others move on and accept it when the escorts cant accept it themselves, all is hidden, kinda of underground, so in a way they stigmatise the whole thing themselves so its not the same as jobs like a a doctor, a therapist, a mechanic,

Quite philosophical, I like that.

Anyway, I don't think escort themselves stigmatise the proffession nor contribute to it although I do understand where you're coming from. Wider Irish society, which is perhaps a conservative religious majority stigmatise it. You believe that the escort should scream & shout her proffession in an attempt to persuade & educate wider society however I think that the escort can accept her work as a proffession without actively trying to gain approval from society. It's discarding the views of a conservative majority, who may very well resist the didantic approach and insist upon holding such beliefs in any event. You can't persuade a closed mind.

It's not stigmatising or contributing just merely accepting you are happy in your proffession without seeking approval.

[Bratsimpson1]

have a bit of wit, it not a wind up, get off your high horse and cop on, I WISH ALL THESE GIRLS THE BEST OF LUCK AS THESE GIRLS GOT GUTS

[FredLopez]

Quite philosophical, I like that.

Anyway, I don't think escort themselves stigmatise the proffession not contribute to it although I do understand where you're coming from. Wider Irish society, which is perhaps a conservative religious majority stigmatise it. You believe that the escort should scream & shout her proffession in an attempt to persuade & educate wider society however I think that the escort can accept her work as a proffession without actively trying to gain approval from society. It's discarding the views of a conservative majority, who may very well resist the didantic approach and insist upon holding such beliefs in any event. You can't persuade a closed mind.

It's not stigmatising or contributing just merely accepting you are happy in you proffession without seeking approval.

They do to a certain extent but you can understand why, other people both boys and girls just wont except them them and that what they believe and they would be devastated if their family ever knew what they did. most do a great job but this idiotic law in Ireland has set us back and made it more unacceptable, thats the sad part.

[FredLopez]

There are many things I can forgive, bur being an unimaginative utter bore is not one of them.

why don't you give constructive posts on why you think my opinions are incorrect instead of coming out with the usual boring comments that helps nobody.
I believe what I say is about right

[Forceuser]

Fred does make a fair point.
Most girls ive talked to about it have said they keep it secret from their close friends and family
and i certainly dont tell people in my life i visit escorts.
i have only met 1 girl who told me she discussed it with her mother before starting.
So i guess we are all also a little bit to blame

[brendonlong1]

Because you're a boring boring man with a one-song hymnsheet.

I do not see any post hear to say why you should be attacked. Think you made valuable comments.

[JayM93]

They do to a certain extent but you can understand why, other people both boys and girls just wont except them them and that what they believe and they would be devastated if their family ever knew what they did. most do a great job but this idiotic law in Ireland has set us back and made it more unacceptable, thats the sad part.

90 per cent of the legislation was welcome reform though. Updated sexual offences and victim support is only beneficial to our criminal law system however I agree, the relevant Sections on sex work would have been more apt if drafted in 1947 Ireland.

You know, Irish society is baffling in many respects. It's shocking how a country with a revitalised Docklands, attracting multi national companies and bills itself as a modern society (they are people that now want to drink Latté from avocados in society however here we are in 2017, with recent legislation to outlaw sex work & still no forthcoming referenda on abortion. This "Modern Ireland" doesn't live up to it's name and despite it being 2017, is still not free from the confines of the Catholic church.

It's also ironic how some young women these days have "sugar daddies" and that seems to be somewhat acceptable (from what I have personally heard).

Young women in university (potential doctors & barristers, etc) sign up for these type of arrangements to fund their education, have a few socials and buy clothes, etc however what's the difference if Lady A decides to escort through university or lady B who seeks such an arrangement or alternatively, lady A who escorts as a proffession or lady B who seeks a "sugar daddy" to maintain her throughout her life. It's quite ironic.

[FredLopez]

Because you're a boring boring man with a one-song hymnsheet.

and thats the best you can do, cheap shots without any substance, typical of you