How the Celtic tiger lost its roar

[carlos marvado]

Thats what I was trying to say at the end of my first post, I'd lay the blame with the Government, its a joke the same people are there.

Don't know who I'd vote to replace them. I think Richard Burton might make a decent Finance Minister, he talks common sense.

Well he has'nt said a bit for a while now, as Qph already mentioned, but if he were half as good a politician as he was an actor, I'd be in favour of digging him up and nominating him to stand in every single constituency. Back in th 1920s De Valera stood in a number of constituencies, so maybe it's time to dig him up as well. The only other way to get a Richard Burton as Taoiseach would be to marry Richard Bruton off to Joan Burton and get him to change his surname to hers.

At least the pair of them would probably communicate with one another, which is a lot more than can be said for the current bunch. We only had the Tanaiste telling us a few weeks ago that the public finances were in order or at least under control and the Minister for Finance painting a completely different picture. The celtic tiger must have f**ked up the ancient art of communication amongst other things.

The problem is one of politicians following the political cycle with one eye on the next election and people such as the financial sector, investors etc. following the financial year, with both eyes on bonuses, dividends etc. Compare this to a place like China......a capitalist business model presided over by a totalitarian communist political model. Despite the problems of managing a country of the size and population of China, and the effects that the recession is having there now, in China, political stability married to a pro business and investment environment and low tolerance of corruption meant that the Chinese economy recently overtook Germany as the third largest economy and it probably wont take them too long to overtake Japan either. What we in the west call long term planning is probably short term for them......these guys are in there for the long haul, they're building an economy on solid foundations with a long term objective of global economic leadership. Even the old 5 and 10 year plans of the Soviet Union were,nt a patch on what the Chinese are managing to achieve, because they lacked the incentives of a capitalist driven economy.

As to the likes of Seanie Fitzpatrick and his ilk, I some how doubt that that sort of behaviour would be tolerated in China......the most effective controls are the range of punitative measures available to the Chinese authorities and these are'nt just financial ones. When an economy of well over a billion people finally gets into fifth gear and their entire population can fully participate in it, then we in Ireland and the west in general will be reduced to an economic backwater.

A final message brothers and sisters......................

蝴蝶的翼拍動

It's not a perfect translation, but it conveys the massage none the less.

[Quarterpoundher]

If your digging up the long fella then I'm digging up the big fella. I was just onto Christie Moore for me shovel back but knowing you you probably have a team fresh from the gulags of Siberia already digging ya commie lovin marxist

[carlos marvado]

If your digging up the long fella then I'm digging up the big fella. I was just onto Christie Moore for me shovel back but knowing you you probably have a team fresh from the gulags of Siberia already digging ya commie lovin marxist

Great idea Qph, dig up both the long fella and the big fella and let Brother RicFlair referee the fight. It should be one hell of a bone shaker, but my money is on Collins as he's being waiting nearly 88 years for a re-match.

[Quarterpoundher]

Same here but old Dev might just have the height and reach on him plus he was a sneaky fecker was Dev and might land a sucker punch like last time but lets hope they manage to make it to the last 6 six rounds they forgot about last time out. That was a 26 rounder decided on points if I recall.

[anitasizzle]

Same here but old Dev might just have the height and reach on him plus he was a sneaky fecker was Dev and might land a sucker punch like last time but lets hope they manage to make it to the last 6 six rounds they forgot about last time out. That was a 26 rounder decided on points if I recall.

Yeah, but '' old dev'' was aa 'New yorker' so what do you expect?

[Quarterpoundher]

That's true those New Yorkers are unpredictable alright but was also half Spanish so he was always going to a fighter. It was only the American passport that saved him from the buisness end of a British Lee Enfield.

[anitasizzle]

That's true those New Yorkers are unpredictable alright but was also half Spanish so he was always going to a fighter. It was only the American passport that saved him from the buisness end of a British Lee Enfield.

You're very gracious, some in Ireland would call him, ''a stupid American''

[Quarterpoundher]

We can't really do that as he sort of is our George Washington and Collins is our Abe Lincoln.
Bertie (jaysus lads) Ahern was our Bill Clinton. Charles (tighten the belt lads) Haughy was Nixon and Biffo (its not my feckin fault) Cowen looks like being our Dubya and Carter rolled into one.

I think there are plans for a version of Mt. Rushmore on the Cliffs of Moher as soon as we can afford a few pick axes.

plus most of my family are American.

[RicFlair]

where it went wrong, why it went wrong? i'm not sure but unfortunately i never made alot from the tiger but i always had enough. i was too tight to buy a house because i realised they are over valued and need to half in price to get back to normal. the property boom caused about 15yrs work which got done in 5yrs cause people just got too greedy. maybe a cap should have been put on non nationals, a visa system like other countries. the meltdown in the US has a knock on effect on every country worldwide, i,ve lost my job 3 weeks ago without any notice just shut down, and here i am spending time on escort ireland to pass the time and look at the lovely ladies i cant have.. well maybe some. Also i'm not paying tax but am taking from the government which no one had taking into account there losing on the double from everyone out of work. these are my views may not be right just an opinion.

That sucks Sam.

Oh well I'd say the Soup Kitchens will be opening by the end of the year and thats no joke.

[Quarterpoundher]

No fear of you Ric. I hear you are recession proof and on very good money

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