new bill criminalising the purchase of sex

[Sexy Sandy 69]

Sex Workers Alliance & the information came from a lawyer who has worked for the organization & represented escorts in court.

I believe that it's every escorts responsibility to know their rights.

Sandy x

[Bucko]

Sex Workers Alliance & the information came from a lawyer who has worked for the organization & represented escorts in court.

I believe that it's every escorts responsibility to know their rights.

Sandy x

It is, thank you for the information.

[Bucko]

That can't be right. Who in this case would have reported a crime? Also I am fairly sure that the ownership status of the occupant of the premises does not matter and the cops still need a warrant.

The owner of the building or the landlord or a nosy neighbour.

[Rocker123]

A lot of people seem to be asking if this bill has become law yet. Well I did a little research and the links below give you the answer.

http://www.thejournal.ie/how-does-a-...23829-Jan2013/

http://www.president.ie/en/the-presi...17-legislation

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2...nacted/en/html

[hoordog]

Unfortunately not true. Guards can enter a premises without a warrant. Here is a link explaining this in detail.
http://businessandlegal.ie/the-power...ion-in-ireland

The link above states that, except in exceptional cases, they can't enter and search premises without a warrant:

The power to enter and search premises

"The Gardai’s power to enter and search premises are limited to

1. When they have a valid search warrant

2. Where there is a statutory or common law power to enter without a warrant (these circumstances are quite narrow, for example to attempt to assist if a building was on fire and people’s lives were at risk).
....

Entering and searching a person’s home is something that is jealously guarded by the Constitution of Ireland. Without a warrant any evidence obtained will be inadmissible in a subsequent prosecution unless there are extraordinary excusing circumstances.

Such circumstances would include a belief on the Guard’s behalf that it is necessary to safeguard life and limb."

[John Thomas]

the crucial extract from irish statute link is 2nd para

'This Act shall come into operation on such day or days as the Minister for Justice and Equality may appoint by order or orders whether generally or with reference to any particular purpose or provision and different days may be so appointed for different purposes or different provisions.'

to my knowledge it has not 'commenced' yet

[MidlifeCrisis]

A lot of people seem to be asking if this bill has become law yet. Well I did a little research and the links below give you the answer.

http://www.thejournal.ie/how-does-a-...23829-Jan2013/

http://www.president.ie/en/the-presi...17-legislation

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2...nacted/en/html

Thanks, useful links.

One thing that caught my eye is that offering to pay for sexual offences puts you on the wrong side of this, so you could be done for arranging an appointment even if you forgot your wallet.

[IrishSarahBarra]

I second what Sandy says. Guards will nead a valid warrant to enter an escorts premises. The Solicitor for The Sex Workers Alliance is very clear on this.

Escorts need only give their name, address and immigration status and, if pushed for more they should ask for their solicitor.

Also, on the warrant, she is not committing any crime if she is working alone.

[John Thomas]

Thanks, useful links.

One thing that caught my eye is that offering to pay for sexual offences puts you on the wrong side of this, so you could be done for arranging an appointment even if you forgot your wallet.

thats why you can be lifted on the way in

[EIFII]

I second what Sandy says. Guards will nead a valid warrant to enter an escorts premises. The Solicitor for The Sex Workers Alliance is very clear on this.

Escorts need only give their name, address and immigration status and, if pushed for more they should ask for their solicitor.

Also, on the warrant, she is not committing any crime if she is working alone.

She may not be, but any punter present will be. Especially if the Garda has watched said punter remove cash from a nearby ATM and finds significant sums of cash in the apartment