new bill criminalising the purchase of sex

[bollocks]

Shame disgrace and embarrass is what they want to do.

I have met some escorts in a private capacity, and know there real names, and even left reviews for them when it was legal.

Am I not entitled to visit these ladies again and again as friends, and yes I do give them money, usually after the event, and sometimes more than their usual rates and occasionally less.

[Sexy Sandy 69]

Reviews prior to the commencement of the Act will be inadmissible. Reviews subsequent to the Act may be strengthening the case against you.

Guys you need to get a grip, submitting reviews, accessing & posting on a sex site is not going to used against you IF you get caught. Do you really think that the Gards have the time to go through your devices, trace what you've looked, what you've posted etc? I don't think so.

Sandy x

[JayM93]

Guys you need to get a grip, submitting reviews, accessing & posting on a sex site is not going to used against you IF you get caught. Do you really think that the Gards have the time to go through your devices, trace what you've looked, what you've posted etc? I don't think so.

Sandy x

It would be extremely naive not to expect prosecution to adduce evidence by way of reviews. After all, a review places the accused at the location, at the time, with that lady, etc and more so to the point, allows inferences to be drawn. This is a strict liability offence- evidence of reviews, Garda testimony, etc would be more than enough to warrant a conviction. The Gardai would of course be interested in such.

[Sexy Sandy 69]

It would be extremely naive not to expect prosecution to adduce evidence by way of reviews. After all, a review places the accused at the location, at the time, with that lady, etc and more so to the point, allows inferences to be drawn. This is a strict liability offence- evidence of reviews, Garda testimony, etc would be more than enough to warrant a conviction. The Gardai would of course be interested in such.

You don't have to list the location on the review & no such evidence has been used in the North, the North has a bigger police force & more resources.

Sandy x

[JayM93]

Tell me something, Sandy? What's the attitude of the PSNI to the Act? Is it legislation that is not enforced pratically? That's a genuine question as I feel if the Gardai wanted convictions, they would easily achieve that objective and put the additional effort into adducing evidence however as of yet, we can't measure the force & pratical effect of the Act until we see the Garda response.

[Sexy Sandy 69]

Tell me something, Sandy? What's the attitude of the PSNI to the Act? Is it legislation that is not enforced pratically? That's a genuine question as I feel if the Gardai wanted convictions, they would easily achieve that objective and put the additional effort into adducing evidence however as of yet, we can't measure the force & pratical effect of the Act until we see the Garda response.

PSNI were against Lord Morrow's bill, saying this new law was not enforceable. They then accepted that it had been passed but have not actively pursed carrying out the objectives that the law outlined.

If you are caught, all you have to confirm to the Gardai are your name & your address. If a client is arrested, the escort DOES NOT have to give a statement to the Gardai.

Sandy x

[The Libertarian]

PSNI were against Lord Morrow's bill, saying this new law was not enforceable. They then accepted that it had been passed but have not actively pursed carrying out the objectives that the law outlined.

If you are caught, all you have to confirm to the Gardai are your name & your address. If a client is arrested, the escort DOES NOT have to give a statement to the Gardai.

Sandy x

I have heard it said that The Swedish Pigs have forced fully independent sex workers to rat on clients by threatening to have their children put into care, threatening to inform their landlords and confiscating all their earnings for 'evidence', this is in spite of the fact that a sex worker working independently has committed no crime ( 2 or more working from the same apartment constitutes a brothel there as here and is illegal!)
BTW the threat to put children into care works because this law has successfully sublimated into the general public's consciousness that sex work is stigamtised justifiably and that sex workers are voluntarily giving into their own exploitation and as such must be mentally ill, that's how completely fucking sick this law and most of its proponents are!

[The Libertarian]

It would be extremely naive not to expect prosecution to adduce evidence by way of reviews. After all, a review places the accused at the location, at the time, with that lady, etc and more so to the point, allows inferences to be drawn. This is a strict liability offence- evidence of reviews, Garda testimony, etc would be more than enough to warrant a conviction. The Gardai would of course be interested in such.

Do you think that any client writes a review just before he/she leaves an apartment to get their collar felt by the pigs?
I don't!

[JayM93]

That's a strawman argument.

[JayM93]

PSNI were against Lord Morrow's bill, saying this new law was not enforceable. They then accepted that it had been passed but have not actively pursed carrying out the objectives that the law outlined.

If you are caught, all you have to confirm to the Gardai are your name & your address. If a client is arrested, the escort DOES NOT have to give a statement to the Gardai.

Sandy x

That's fair enough, the central question remaining is whether the Gardai will actively enforce the Act. It remains to be seen however if the Gardai adopted an attitude akin to that of their Northern counterparts, then nothing changes as a law that is not enforced is no law at all. The subsequent 3 months shall reveal a lot.

Yes, I'm very familiar Garda powers.