That Bill is now being Voted on

[gonzo76]

We were having a chat about this last evening in the chatroom. I am at a loss about what they are trying to accomplish from the act. Lets put some numbers into the debate;

1. Say an average of 700 escorts working (there are 728 today, but for the sake of argument)
2. Say each escort has three clients a day (from my "hands on", intensive research this seems about right, but I am open to correction)
3. This means the behaviour of 2,100 punters a day is criminalised with the passing of the Act (on the basis there are few enough of us that regularly see more than one escort a day, and if there are they won't impact on the statistics, but fair due to them ananyways!)
4. On a weekly basis the number is new 14,700 criminals (on the on the basis there are few enough of us that regularly see more than one escort a week, and if there are they won't materially impact on the statistics, but fair due to them ananyways!)
5. Using that reasoning the number of new criminals the coppers have to chase annually is 764,400, but of course there are many of us repeat offenders.
6. Say the number of annual punts is 7 (again, open to comment). If that is so, the number of additional criminals for the coppers is 109,200

On the other hand, using the above numbers, lets take a look at the economics of the trade;

1. What is the cost of the average punt? Most 30 mins appointments are €100, but some appointments are 45 mins/1hr or more. For the sake of argument, lets say €110.
2. €110 times 764,400 (keep up, the number of punts over the year) is €84,084,000. Is turnover like that something the state should be thinking about regulating rather than banning (especially for no reason?). After all, there are already anti trafficking laws, and laws against withholding the liberty from folk.

All in all, it seems to be ideologically driven, and bonkers to me.

Any other thoughts?

Why are you at a loss to understand it? It's very simple. Religious, prudish morons in government who don't want others to have any fun, even if they've decided they don't want any more fun in their own lives.

[willie wacker]

We were having a chat about this last evening in the chatroom. I am at a loss about what they are trying to accomplish from the act. Lets put some numbers into the debate;

1. Say an average of 700 escorts working (there are 728 today, but for the sake of argument)
2. Say each escort has three clients a day (from my "hands on", intensive research this seems about right, but I am open to correction)
3. This means the behaviour of 2,100 punters a day is criminalised with the passing of the Act (on the basis there are few enough of us that regularly see more than one escort a day, and if there are they won't impact on the statistics, but fair due to them!)
4. On a weekly basis, the number of new criminals is 14,700 (on the on the basis there are few enough of us that regularly see more than one escort a week, and if there are they won't materially impact on the statistics, but fair due to them!)
5. Using that reasoning the number of new criminals the cops have to chase (or the number of criminal acts now being committed annually) is 764,400. But of course there are many of us repeat offenders.
6. Say the number of annual punts is 7 (again, open to comment). If that is so, the number of additional criminals for the cops is 109,200

On the other hand, using the above numbers, lets take a look at the economics of the trade;

1. What is the cost of the average punt? Most 30 mins appointments are €100, but some appointments are 45 mins/1hr or more. For the sake of argument, lets say €110.
2. €110 times 764,400 (keep up, the number of punts over the year) is €84,084,000. Is turnover like that something the state should be thinking about regulating rather than banning (especially for no reason?). After all, there are already anti trafficking laws, and laws against withholding the liberty from folk.

All in all, it seems to be ideologically driven, and bonkers to me.

Any other thoughts?

One simple word here

TAX

They don't want to bring anyone to court but force you pay an on the spot fine
They are too lazy to regulate it and don't want to either but want their taxes for it
The clients are the easiest option

[Zander]

I disagree that well established and very discreet Escorts will not care !!
you must remember this is their profession and if they are not caring and good
at it they wont be making a living out of it for long.

He is correct, why would they care really, if a guy is caught it just one of those things to be expected. More will replace him

[John Thomas]

here's what happens- punter gets arrested on suspicion of purchasing sex

escort is a witness?

is the escort inciting a criminal act?

conclusion- well established independents do not want the risk of public exposure and the market is flooded with cheap foreign imports

basic economics

qed

[Zander]

I have 3 regular girls that I visit, top class but sadly all say they are leaving shortly as too much hassle and already their client base is drying up and law not even fully in yet

[blue rebel]

I have 3 regular girls that I visit, top class but sadly all say they are leaving shortly as too much hassle and already their client base is drying up and law not even fully in yet

Well if you don't trust them they wont be any loss will they?

[Irish Leigha]

Just because the increase the price don't mean the will get better clients,lol

There's no better client that you Tombo......

A perfect gent

[Genie in a Bottle]

I disagree that well established and very discreet Escorts will not care !!
you must remember this is their profession and if they are not caring and good
at it they wont be making a living out of it for long.

You must remember that I mean theyre not bothered as in a raid its better you than them, you think theyre going to lose any sleep over you

[alcatel]

An hour or so ago(before I got diverted and discovered religion) I was perusing this long and worthy, inspirational and informative thread ;when I suddenly saw the light and developed the need to log in and give my 2 cents worth, but remember, it is only my humble two cents.

Anyway here goes,

Wah! Wah! Wah!
Blah! Blah! Blah!
Baa, baa, baa,

There you go.
As you were.

[50euro]

I once had a police lady stick her truncheon up my ass, painful but in a good way