That Bill is now being Voted on

[SteveB]

I'm reading to many good books these days to read a super long thread. So are we criminals yet?

I don't think we are high enough on anybody's priorities for us to be criminals.

[oscarmilde]

There would have been something in the paper as was the case in NI. Nothing yet

[JustinBeaver]

There would have been something in the paper as was the case in NI. Nothing yet

there been plenty of raids and several clients caught but most not made public, had a near escape last December,

[The Libertarian]

There would have been something in the paper as was the case in NI. Nothing yet

IIRC there was an official grace period after the law had passed in Nordieland and even after that the PSNI stated that this law needed time to settle before it could be enforced! This dovetails with the notion that the law up there was about changing attitudes in particular those of clients towards purchasing sex!
Down south it's primarily about making sex workers suffer!
And it will be enforced!
And in so far as it's about changing attitiudes towards sex work down south it's about stigmatising sex work further!

[JustinBeaver]

IIRC there was an official grace period after the law had passed in Nordieland and even after that the PSNI stated that this law needed time to settle before it could be enforced! This dovetails with the notion that the law up there was about changing attitudes in particular those of clients towards purchasing sex!
Down south it's primarily about making sex workers suffer!
And it will be enforced!
And in so far as it's about changing attitiudes towards sex work down south it's about stigmatising sex work further!

true one officer told me they could enforce and had the manpower but were giving clients grace to get use to it, very fair unlike the Guards who show no mercy and no law even in yet there

[The Libertarian]

true one officer told me they could enforce and had the manpower but were giving clients grace to get use to it, very fair unlike the Guards who show no mercy

Laura Lee said on the recent radio interview, which I started a thread on, that The PSNI have been ok in enforcing this law and have even allocating 2 liason officers to sex workers to help ensure its impact on them is minimized. However she states (and this was before this law was passed down here) that the Guards have been involved in rapes, robberies and general assaults of sex workers in The Republic and given recent controversies including vicious thuggery and rape threats by them in Rosport and beatings and general harrassment of water tax protesters, how can anyone be surprised at this?

https://www.escort-ireland.com/board...with-Laura-Lee

[milkman]

Although not a lawyer,it does seem odd that one can work , perfectly legally, as a sex worker in the EU's most powerful and influential country, Germany , and yet that same worker may be effectively prevented from carrying out exactly the same work in another EU Member State. What about freedom to work and transfer around the EU ?

Interesting idea - a variant of the ' Bosman' ruling!

[SteveB]

Interesting idea - a variant of the ' Bosman' ruling!

The bill doesn’t put a restriction on the free movement of sex workers.
It just means that when the workers come here they have to obey all the country’s laws. [Including the stupid, narrow-minded ones.]

[milkman]

Ah yeah ! though you'd imagine that an ECHR judgement on the issue (which would prob centre on whether prostitution qualifies as 'work' thereby requiring minimum health and safety rights) would actually go someway to eventually prioritise the safety of the women which they want.

[TheNamesRiddick]

Wow... I mean, WOW
After Brexit and Trump, not to mention things like the housing crisis, healthcare system, roads and so on, one would have thought more pressing matters need to be dealt with.
This country needs to get laid more often, and sort out priorities.
The government can dictate its subjects many things, but what consenting adults do in private is not one of them.

Well now that's where you're just plain wrong,

The government is not dictating what you do in your bedroom. The government is trying to protect people from abuse.