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    Quote Originally Posted by JayM93 View Post
    I suggest you look up the meaning of the word "arbitrary". Can you seriously not see the correlation between certain ladies in certain locations to the public eye? I shouldn't have to define it as you can take any locality you wish on the EI map and it's crystal clear, who attracts attention and who doesn't.

    I love the way you cite Canadian jurisprudence as your legal authority but Canada isn't exactly the benchmark in this scenario. If it's a human right, can you pinpoint the Article in our Constitution? Perhaps not, the ECHR? perhaps not.

    Isn't an apartment with three ladies working from that spot with heavy traffic of incoming males (and a certain type) offensive to the public?
    Although not a lawyer,it does seem odd that one can work , perfectly legally, as a sex worker in the EU's most powerful and influential country, Germany , and yet that same worker may be effectively prevented from carrying out exactly the same work in another EU Member State. What about freedom to work and transfer around the EU ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bootboy View Post
    Although not a lawyer,it does seem odd that one can work , perfectly legally, as a sex worker in the EU's most powerful and influential country, Germany , and yet that same worker may be effectively prevented from carrying out exactly the same work in another EU Member State. What about freedom to work and transfer around the EU ?
    but each country is still independent and can set their own laws

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    Quote Originally Posted by bestie View Post
    but each country is still independent and can set their own laws
    Don't think so, particularly if they don't conform to EU law. EU law takes precedence , isn't that why the Brits are getting out ? They don't want to have to tow the line on EU law and principles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bootboy View Post
    Don't think so, particularly if they don't conform to EU law. EU law takes precedence , isn't that why the Brits are getting out ? They don't want to have to tow the line on EU law and principles.
    The British people made a mistake, if that referendum was run again it would be a different story, now you will see a tightening up of who comes into the country and will made it difficult for those foreign escorts who are here and those who wish to come, Trump's at similar nonsense,messing with people's lives and what a loose canon he is.
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    they sure would vote differently and were duped by bullshit, I got a farm in Kent and going to lose out in a lot of money from subsidies from Europe now, morons them all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom Dunn View Post
    I stand by my point. Of course there are a number of venues which are not discrete and the escorts may have certain issues attached but in the round they are exceptions. I suggest that you are been taken in by the sensationalist nonsense that passes for journalism in this so called Republic. Clearly you know very little about common/constitutional legal matters so I will let that point pass. Of course 3 people can work from a single venue if they take into account the circumstances locally. Remember it is the outdated social mores which condemns people working in and associating with the sex trade as social misfits and seeks to marginalise them.
    Oh yes, anyone with an opinion other than your own have been brainwashed by the media.

    Oh yes, I know very little about Human Rights & Constitutional Law. Please educate me.

    You made the point that it's a human right and cited one jurisdiction to suit your agenda. Canadian jurisprudence on this matter is the exception and not the rule. The point is, if it's such a human right, then adduce more examples to support your claim. It's not a right that features in our Constitution, the ECHR, the UN Charter, etc. What about the US Constitution? Again, I struggle to see it. I may give you this jurisdiction on grounds of public morality but I won't concede the rest.

    You're qualifying your own argument now, perhaps you acknowledge it's fundamentally flawed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bootboy View Post
    Although not a lawyer,it does seem odd that one can work , perfectly legally, as a sex worker in the EU's most powerful and influential country, Germany , and yet that same worker may be effectively prevented from carrying out exactly the same work in another EU Member State. What about freedom to work and transfer around the EU ?
    I do understand where you're coming from and I appreciate the question however the Law of the Union is extremely complex, the right to freely work around the Union is not absolute and qualified on grounds of policy, security, etc. You would find that a lady is not classified as a "worker" under Treaty definition so wouldn't attract the additional protection of the free movement provisions. Yes, the lady may move freely around the Union as she would have citizenship however not as a "worker" within the scope of the TFEU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayM93 View Post
    Oh yes, anyone with an opinion other than your own have been brainwashed by the media.

    Oh yes, I know very little about Human Rights & Constitutional Law. Please educate me.

    You made the point that it's a human right and cited one jurisdiction to suit your agenda. Canadian jurisprudence on this matter is the exception and not the rule. The point is, if it's such a human right, then adduce more examples to support your claim. It's not a right that features in our Constitution, the ECHR, the UN Charter, etc. What about the US Constitution? Again, I struggle to see it. I may give you this jurisdiction on grounds of public morality but I won't concede the rest.

    You're qualifying your own argument now, perhaps you acknowledge it's fundamentally flawed.
    But are the rights to privacy and to freedom of association and indeed bodily integrity, all of which are under threat from this madness, not inalienable human rights?
    Ride them on the beaches!

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    A friend of mine was reading somewhere that this law is up and running, enforceable since days ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel Divine View Post
    A friend of mine was reading somewhere that this law is up and running, enforceable since days ago.
    Wot? Then why are we not all in jail?????????

    If it is up and running and nobody here had noticed then it seems some people have been panicking for nothing.

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