Sexual Offenses Bill to be Considered this week and voted on.

[bestie]

The Gardai aint stoopid. Id be sure they know more than we would think. However, i would be sure theyd be clamping down to set the bar so to speak. You can be sure resources will be available if this comes to pass.

The fact this is coming through the dail this wk, i fear the worst will happen. Its kinda sneaky !

If it passes, unless any of the genuine escorts are going to see clients at their own private address ( which is a safety concern ), it will be curtains.

I would also be weary re the EI website, regardless of where its hosted.

Its unfortunate that genuine female / male /ts / tv escorts will suffer because of it.

As for ppl saying dont get caught / be discreet....are you on cloud 9 ? Im sure locations are known to the gardai.

And for them to proove money passed hands, will ne difficult. But what if your name is in the paper and you've no conviction, being named - damage done !



I really dont know

its a big risk, of course the gardai have all the information and know all the haunts, hotels even as i said escorts just seeing a few guys a day wont work, its ok for the escort only as they will have committed no crime and clients will get a slap on the wrist for first time offence but what happens the second time.
I'm still waiting but know it not forgot about.

[bestie]

When did this happen
Not under the new law
And there was no law to brake before this

June of this year, thing was I saw this escort twice before too and she was working on her own at the time so she will be fine.

[bootboy]

The Gardai aint stoopid. Id be sure they know more than we would think. However, i would be sure theyd be clamping down to set the bar so to speak. You can be sure resources will be available if this comes to pass.

The fact this is coming through the dail this wk, i fear the worst will happen. Its kinda sneaky !

If it passes, unless any of the genuine escorts are going to see clients at their own private address ( which is a safety concern ), it will be curtains.

I would also be weary re the EI website, regardless of where its hosted.

Its unfortunate that genuine female / male /ts / tv escorts will suffer because of it.

As for ppl saying dont get caught / be discreet....are you on cloud 9 ? Im sure locations are known to the gardai.

And for them to proove money passed hands, will ne difficult. But what if your name is in the paper and you've no conviction, being named - damage done !



I really dont know

The gardai are constantly claiming that they are under resourced. Why would they be bothered raiding an independents' apartment where there is zero chance of finding anyone trafficked ?

[Theomegaman]

Can't put your name in the paper
Has to be proved first in court

Nobody will want to go to court. If a client gets caught they will sing like canaries and the scare tactics will be used. There will be no loyalties to anyone in this kind of situation.
Also the country we live in most people will co operate to stay out of trouble. As I said previously the clients are the pawns they will lead them to the places.
And EI makes it so easy for the evidence to be gathered and locations. Do you honestly think the Gardai won't be making appointments to find locations ? Then all they have to do is sit there and watch ???? Or knock on the door ask a few questions ? All they need is proof of intent. It's a brilliant and easy way to work their hours.

[circumcised guy]

Oh here we go again we will have about 10 threads a day about this new bill until it comes in. Even if it does come in you just have to use your common sense and be a bit more cautious of what ladies you choose. I know it's easy for me to be so flippant about this new law as I'm not married like some guys and some of my family even know I see escorts. Plus I couldn't give a dam of anyone else's opinion. It's my life and my money to do with what i want. But I'll be cautious for the ladies sake more than anything.

[f1 away]

All laws are connected to other laws and you may not be breaking the one you think. An example is yes it's not illegal to offer the service but is the provider paying taxes on their earnings ? Some are I am sure.
The whole scenario of not being physically present by the police to see the transfer of money between both parties doesn't really stand up. If they have suspicion or a report by someone of services being offered then they can pursue it. It's unfortunate that the little bit of the law that changes has such huge implications for everyone.
There is a much bigger picture being missed. They are saying it's all fine to work as an Escort but are you doing everything else legally and are you ligitametly working in the country. For the clients they will be the pawns and the bait.

I think you should are all mis the point
You can't give a escort any gifts or money
The guards has to proved be on reasonable doubt court
The Dpp won't take it to court with good evidence

[Theomegaman]

The gardai are constantly claiming that they are under resourced. Why would they be bothered raiding an independents' apartment where there is zero chance of finding anyone trafficked ?

As I said this law is connected as always to other laws. It's simple yes you can work as an Escort , but are you registered for tax , are you paying taxes on your earnings , have you a work permit , does your landlord know you are using their premises for business use the list goes on.
Everyone needs to change their awareness and routine. Stick with established providers which is the same in any walk of life for both clients and Esxorts and all will be fine. Suspicion is raised by foolishness.

[td1]

Can't put your name in the paper
Has to be proved first in court

Right didnt know but still....

its a big risk, of course the gardai have all the information and know all the haunts, hotels even as i said escorts just seeing a few guys a day wont work, its ok for the escort only as they will have committed no crime and clients will get a slap on the wrist for first time offence but what happens the second time.
I'm still waiting but know it not forgot about.

Its hard to know though

The gardai are constantly claiming that they are under resourced. Why would they be bothered raiding an independents' apartment where there is zero chance of finding anyone trafficked ?

V valid point, if they know where independents are who are not trafficked, why not go after the ones who are.

I think you should are all mis the point
You can't give a escort any gifts or money
The guards has to proved be on reasonable doubt court
The Dpp won't take it to court with good evidence

Why try pass the bill if they cant proove money changed hands ?





As "circ guy" says....Its all speculation but has us wondering !!!

[bestie]

E-I are keeping very quiet on this even though the PSNI and An Garda Síochána are constantly monitoring this site and others

[Theomegaman]

I think you should are all mis the point
You can't give a escort any gifts or money
The guards has to proved be on reasonable doubt court
The Dpp won't take it to court with good evidence

Demand is the what fuels the business cut that off you are left with what can survive. Most Irish clients will shit themselves if approached they won't think the way you suggest. They will panic and the police will jump all over it. There will be a clampdown to prove a point and then it will go back to normal. And then every now and again another clampdown. Personally I wouldn't fancy being questioned and giving statements to be sent to DPP as that in itself can cause problems. And it can be reported to papers along with the being released and a file being sent to the DPP scenario we all here about. It's a business like any other it just has to change to the environment it operates in.