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    Default The Somme.

    Very sombre.



    One hundred years ago today.
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    The Battle of the Somme began on 1 July 1916 in the high expectation of a major victory that would bring the carnage of the First World War to an end. By the time it petered out in the rain and snow of the following November, more than one million soldiers from both sides had died without making any appreciable alteration in the opening position. Among the dead were over 3,500 Irish soldiers, with many more wounded. This large loss of life was made even more horrendous by its occurrence within the short space of the first day of the Battle and two days in the following September. In particular, the 5,500 casualties of the 36th Ulster Division on 1 July were men drawn almost entirely from one community in the province of Ulster. Nearly 2,000 soldiers from cities, towns, villages and town lands of the North were killed in the first few hours of fighting, an event which seared itself into the folk memory of their community. In a continuation of the same battle, the 16th Irish Division had 4,330 casualties in September, of whom 1,200 were killed. These came mainly from the other three provinces. Added to these were the Irish soldiers who fought in other divisions as part of the regular army or in the newly raised battalions. The total number of Irish casualties cannot be calculated with certainty but they affected every part of the island and continue to have an influence on the evolution of Irish politics.

    http://www.taoiseach.gov.ie/eng/Hist...the_Somme.html

    16th Irish Division "Johnnie Redmond's pets" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16th_(Irish)_Division
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    Observe the sons of Ulster marching towards the Somme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alcatel View Post
    Observe the sons of Ulster marching towards the Somme.
    Is that a sectarian comment? Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishdeltaforce View Post
    The Battle of the Somme began on 1 July 1916 in the high expectation of a major victory that would bring the carnage of the First World War to an end. By the time it petered out in the rain and snow of the following November, more than one million soldiers from both sides had died without making any appreciable alteration in the opening position. Among the dead were over 3,500 Irish soldiers, with many more wounded. This large loss of life was made even more horrendous by its occurrence within the short space of the first day of the Battle and two days in the following September. In particular, the 5,500 casualties of the 36th Ulster Division on 1 July were men drawn almost entirely from one community in the province of Ulster. Nearly 2,000 soldiers from cities, towns, villages and town lands of the North were killed in the first few hours of fighting, an event which seared itself into the folk memory of their community. In a continuation of the same battle, the 16th Irish Division had 4,330 casualties in September, of whom 1,200 were killed. These came mainly from the other three provinces. Added to these were the Irish soldiers who fought in other divisions as part of the regular army or in the newly raised battalions. The total number of Irish casualties cannot be calculated with certainty but they affected every part of the island and continue to have an influence on the evolution of Irish politics.

    http://www.taoiseach.gov.ie/eng/Hist...the_Somme.html

    16th Irish Division "Johnnie Redmond's pets" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16th_(Irish)_Division

    What an utterly shocking waste of young lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irishdeltaforce View Post
    Is that a sectarian comment? Seriously?
    It's a play first staged in 1985 and a sentence lodged in my head. Afaik it's fairly sympathetic to Ulster unionists.
    Even if something I say sounds like crap, it's always better to Google it, if you have nothing better to do. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by rincewind View Post
    What an utterly shocking waste of young lives.
    Lions led by sheep or some such sarcastic comment on the calibre of the British officer class of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alcatel View Post
    It's a play first staged in 1985 and a sentence lodged in my head. Afaik it's fairly sympathetic to Ulster unionists.
    Even if something I say sounds like crap, it's always better to Google it, if you have nothing better to do. ;-)
    Sorry dude I did not mean to be a prick but an Irish man is an Irish man in my view despite his political affiliation. Good post. We will remember them (and about time to.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by alcatel View Post
    Lions led by sheep or some such sarcastic comment on the calibre of the British officer class of the time.
    Typical superiority complex of the British upper class which if I correct were mainly commissioned officers. Some regarded the men serving under their command as merely cannon fodder.
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    During The War!

    Do you old boys ever stop reminiscing about the war,
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