Jaysus - False Advertising (Not on EI)

[Dom Dunn]

This is a really complex one. Such as escort must find themselves in a bit of a bind really. In a sense they are in no mans/womans land really. IMO there is a very limited demand for post op's. The vast majority of guys -and there are a lot- into TS's want the one's with the tail attached. Someone who goes ahead with the operation is in a weak position from a marketing perspective if they advertise as post op. They are then faced with the dilemma of whether they should pretend to be a woman. The problem is that technically they are women although not naturally born. They can argue with some justification that they deserve to be treated as such. Likewise I can understand why a lot of guys would be unhappy to discover the facts after the event has started. Some might demand their money back and perhaps others may become angry even violent. Personally I would try to keep an open mind and judge an appointment on the degree of excellence of the escort, her manner and associated attributes while accepting that certain things are probably off the menu. Not sure everybody would feel the same way however.

[Best Before]

This is a really complex one. Such as escort must find themselves in a bit of a bind really. In a sense they are in no mans/womans land really. IMO there is a very limited demand for post op's. The vast majority of guys -and there are a lot- into TS's want the one's with the tail attached. Someone who goes ahead with the operation is in a weak position from a marketing perspective if they advertise as post op. They are then faced with the dilemma of whether they should pretend to be a woman. The problem is that technically they are women although not naturally born. They can argue with some justification that they deserve to be treated as such. Likewise I can understand why a lot of guys would be unhappy to discover the facts after the event has started. Some might demand their money back and perhaps others may become angry even violent. Personally I would try to keep an open mind and judge an appointment on the degree of excellence of the escort, her manner and associated attributes while accepting that certain things are probably off the menu. Not sure everybody would feel the same way however.

Great post

[Floki]

But it shouldn't matter who the moderator is.

That's the problem around here, no consistency.

This is true, so I will agree with you.
However though, if something has been put into place, then we'll all agree with it, but if one of us looks at things differently, we then decide between each other if there is another route we can take.

We all see things differently, but we here do try and make things fair for all.

[ShadowEmpress]

Now originally I had no intention at all of posting in this thread here to today, or ever, but something about the discussion has bugged me consistently and it has taken me all day to figure out what it is... and after waffling about whether or not to post it, and figuring out how to express my thoughts in actual words, it will bug me even more if I do not write it out.

In my previous reply to this thread, I really meant it when I said I am not getting into the "womanhood" argument. Do I have my own view on the matter? Of course; and of course, like any other human being, I would love it if most people agreed with me. However, I also recognize that I am just a random person on the internet here, and have about just as much a chance at changing someone's drastically different opinion as they do changing mine. It is a stalemate, and that is why I am not getting into that argument.

What DOES bug me about this whole discussion, and I think I tried to touch upon it in my last post but didn't quite know how to word it, is the assumption that if a post-op woman chooses not to disclose that part of her medical history, she is automatically assumed to be out to "trick" clients. The fact that this thread is titled "Jaysus False Advertising" immediately makes the escort out to be someone who is "out to get men". I think we can all agree that, for example, an escort who posts false pictures is falsely advertising, but it is not like there is any depth to that argument. There are however a lot more factors to consider here, as there is a bevy of reasons why a post-op woman would choose not to disclose that info, such as their health (both physically and psychologically.) And, just because I don't happen to personally agree with you, I do realize some of you would feel "tricked" in that scenario, and I am a rational being who can accept that you don't feel the same way as me. In return, I think it important to at least consider the possibility that a post-op escort is not necessarily actively trying to trick you. Now, since no one here is actually the escort in question, we will never know for certain, but the fact that there are potentially multiple answers as to why they left out that info in their profile kind of proves the point I am making here.

Anyways, this is just me getting things off my chest. Sometimes these forums weight heavily on my mind, and while I don't expect everyone to 100% agree with me, I appreciate being able to get rid of this mental burden today. Time to go back to enjoying this beautiful summer weather!

[Best Before]

Now originally I had no intention at all of posting in this thread here to today, or ever, but something about the discussion has bugged me consistently and it has taken me all day to figure out what it is... and after waffling about whether or not to post it, and figuring out how to express my thoughts in actual words, it will bug me even more if I do not write it out.

In my previous reply to this thread, I really meant it when I said I am not getting into the "womanhood" argument. Do I have my own view on the matter? Of course; and of course, like any other human being, I would love it if most people agreed with me. However, I also recognize that I am just a random person on the internet here, and have about just as much a chance at changing someone's drastically different opinion as they do changing mine. It is a stalemate, and that is why I am not getting into that argument.

What DOES bug me about this whole discussion, and I think I tried to touch upon it in my last post but didn't quite know how to word it, is the assumption that if a post-op woman chooses not to disclose that part of her medical history, she is automatically assumed to be out to "trick" clients. The fact that this thread is titled "Jaysus False Advertising" immediately makes the escort out to be someone who is "out to get men". I think we can all agree that, for example, an escort who posts false pictures is falsely advertising, but it is not like there is any depth to that argument. There are however a lot more factors to consider here, as there is a bevy of reasons why a post-op woman would choose not to disclose that info, such as their health (both physically and psychologically.) And, just because I don't happen to personally agree with you, I do realize some of you would feel "tricked" in that scenario, and I am a rational being who can accept that you don't feel the same way as me. In return, I think it important to at least consider the possibility that a post-op escort is not necessarily actively trying to trick you. Now, since no one here is actually the escort in question, we will never know for certain, but the fact that there are potentially multiple answers as to why they left out that info in their profile kind of proves the point I am making here.

Anyways, this is just me getting things off my chest. Sometimes these forums weight heavily on my mind, and while I don't expect everyone to 100% agree with me, I appreciate being able to get rid of this mental burden today. Time to go back to enjoying this beautiful summer weather!

I can see your point her not wanting to advertise she is post op. But do you think it should be mentioned at the first point of contact. i.e. text meassage, phone call or pm? This could diffuse a very awkward situation arising during a appointment that may cause distress to both parties. You see it's not about if he's a she or she's a he, as there is plenty of people on here have no issue seeing either. It's about making an informed decision, and I think knowing someone used to be a man or visa-versa, is a important part of the decision making when deciding who you would like to visit.

[redforever]

OMG is this thread ever going to go away

[alcatel]

OMG is this thread ever going to go away

It could always take a break, like you did;-)

[JAMESCORK]

I can see your point her not wanting to advertise she is post op. But do you think it should be mentioned at the first point of contact. i.e. text meassage, phone call or pm? This could diffuse a very awkward situation arising during a appointment that may cause distress to both parties. You see it's not about if he's a she or she's a he, as there is plenty of people on here have no issue seeing either. It's about making an informed decision, and I think knowing someone used to be a man or visa-versa, is a important part of the decision making when deciding who you would like to visit.

I agree. I would need to be told if an escort is a post op TS before, rather than find out during a visit.

[Dalton23]

Look man I get what you are saying, I really do. But you've got to understand that A. This isn't even about a situation in Ireland and B. Especially considering there are sections for alternative venues here the chances of that happening (including your powers of perception failing) are so astronomically low that there's no point in getting all worked up over this.

Seriously this is all hypothetical, unless like Joe you have admitted to and didn't have a problem sleeping with post ops.

Can't we stop getting spun up by this troll and go back to talking about fun stuff, like what this forum is meant for?

Getting worked up over it lmao.
You where the one calling posters including myself haters for not agreeing with you.
Pot kettle black comes to mind



And why, Because i dont believe the same thing you do.
And dont be blaming a troll for this, did he make you post.
Act your age ffs.

[redforever]

It could always take a break, like you did;-)

Har de har har