Man Jailed for threatening escort

[bettercallsaul]

Was he not involved with blackmailing,?

Yeah he was,the point John is making is that the sentence should fit the crime,it is on that I don't agree with him,I think the guy in question deserved a lot more time but it is so wrong the soft sentences and let offs some serious scum get,that was his point,some people get away very soft with what are serious offences.

[max california]

This is certainly not going to improve other posters perception of me, or my popularity around here but, I find it disgusting that a married man with kids who has no priors, would be served with such a considerable jail term based on alleged "threats".

I'm not saying don't punish the guy.
Fine him, give him community service, a hefty suspended sentence.
But 18 months, in jail - that is simply ridiculous.

Guys who have committed actual physical battery, robbery, felonies - have gone down for less than that.

This guys life, is ruined.

He'll probably struggle to find any kind of gainful employment again.
His families financial situation will be in crises.

And you guys think he's deserving of this?
Because he didn't pay an escort and made some threats??

Granted of course - I don't know the particulars of the case - but neither do you guys.
He was reported for not paying her.
Why did he become "rough" initially?
God forbid the thought, but was there any provocation involved?

The only thing that I'm going off, is the fact that he had no priors, and was a gainfully employed family man - and in my opinion, that's significantly more substantial that speculating about what a thug he "may" be, who so richly deserves such a severe punishment.


I'm stunned, to be perfectly honest.

18 months in prison - for threats..... and non payment of a sex worker.
How many sex workers cheat guys out of their hard earned cash blatantly on a day to day basis?
And what happens to them?

I suppose this comes back to the man/woman debate.


And just to put this little "incident" in perspective.



This happened very recently, caught on camera.

The lady in this video......

Threats, is the least of what she did.

Actual physical violence and assault, destruction of property, resisting arrest.

And what happens?

The police drag her kicking and screaming to their car, after eventually catching her, and when she realizes she's not getting away with it.... she starts crying.

They feel sorry for her, and let her off.

Scott free, she walks away.

If that was a man that did that, he'd be going down for 10 years, and you lot would probably be screaming for more.


Again, I reiterate - I know this is not going to make me any more popular amongst other posters, escorts or sex workers, and I'm sure, even moderators here, whose opinion of me I've had a hell of a time keeping on the level.

But considering this situation in a broad perspective - I''m shocked.

I'm sure there will be a multitude of well articulated and compelling retorts, to the contrary of my opinion.

It just highlights for me; it's a fine line we walk sometimes.

According to the Independent he was convicted of threatening a witness. As that carries a sentence of up to 10 years as far as I can see http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1...nacted/en/html one could equally argue that 18 months is quite light.

[bollocks]

Yeah he was,the point John is making is that the sentence should fit the crime,it is on that I don't agree with him,I think the guy in question deserved a lot more time but it is so wrong the soft sentences and let offs some serious scum get,that was his point,some people get away very soft with what are serious offences.

I agree some sentences are too soft. There was also the case in to days paper, of the chap who sneaked into the private rooms of lap dancers and stole a lot of their HARD? earned money. He got six months on top of a sentence he is currently serving. He had also stolen from lap dancers several times previously in a similar fashion.

However I do consider blackmail a very serious crime, probably most such crimes never get to court, because of fear etc

[DenaliGirl]

"A childhood friend of the accused told Thomas Creed SC, defending, that the accused man was a straight and decent person who he continued to have regard for. He said he was very shocked by this offending but he was prepared to stand by the man.."

There is always someone prepared to give a character reference to this kind of b.....d.

Well done to the investigating Garda

Most Serial Killers (Abusers) are described by their family and neighbors as 'decent hardworking family man' / or

as a quiet , 'helpful' , nice guy .

Not a bother with him ever !



What was the case a year ago ? Dwyer ?

>> Man murdered a vulnerable woman , all came to light based on emails , texts etc.

: guess what ? He too was a pillar of society and a 'respectable' family man with good background ; with 'Status' .






Men like the one in the article : if not caught in time , will lead to worst . : not 'worse' ; to 'worst' x




*CMorris : I'm not challenging you with 'guess what' ; I'm in agreement with your post x

[tom sand]

I don't agree but understand your thoughts,the fact he threatened was enough for me,but I do agree some far more serious offences get less time or indeed none.

I don't think these type of well thought and rational posts will get you much negative comments John,perhaps they will but in this case you would not deserve them in my opinion.

Obviously people will disagree with your point but that is the point of a forum,people debate,and some just post for the sake of it... but mostly for debate and fun,this being a serious topic the majority will keep it as such,but obviously not everyone.

i do allso understand his above points
if it was a post that was posted once off
but taken in to account
his post history
its the usual
a negative account on women

[bettercallsaul]

i do allso understand his above points
if it was a post that was posted once off
but taken in to account
his post history
its the usual
a negative account on women

I just take each post as it stands buddy,I agree all his previous posts were as you said and worse,boring.

[funlover12]

According to the Independent he was convicted of threatening a witness. As that carries a sentence of up to 10 years as far as I can see http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1...nacted/en/html one could equally argue that 18 months is quite light.

but why let facts get in the way of a good crucifixiction and white knighting session

[CuddlyBear]

not nice....

[Rachel Divine]

I agree.

I'm not saying what the guy did was right, and supporting his agenda of intimidation. Of course not.

And making threats when he was already under police investigation - seriously man - what were you thinking??

But again I say, going on his history and personal credentials, he made a mistake.
And it wasn't even a very big one.
He didn't assault her, he didn't necessarily steal from her.

Hell, I read about another case the other day where a foreign national in Ireland/Dublin, got in a street brawl and KO'd some guy, breaking his jaw and taking fragments out of his skull.

What does the judge say...???

You'd love it.

"Everyone's entitled to a mistake - no jail time".

No jail time!!??
For battery and hospitalization?

I've had my jaw broken.
It's no fun.
If someone did it maliciously to me, and got away with it scott free, well, too say I would be miffed would be an understatement.


So we compare the sentences handed down, under the one-and-the-same Irish judicial system.


And and just shake my head, because really, there's nothing else I can do about it.

Moral intimidation sometimes is worse than physical pain.

Yes, the judge gave him a good slap and I am glad he did.

Also, the law is the law but, can be manipulated for own gain and of course, depends on the judge as well to apply it in a harsh or light way.

[alcatel]

Most Serial Killers (Abusers) are described by their family and neighbors as 'decent hardworking family man' / or

as a quiet , 'helpful' , nice guy .

Not a bother with him ever !



What was the case a year ago ? Dwyer ?

>> Man murdered a vulnerable woman , all came to light based on emails , texts etc.

: guess what ? He too was a pillar of society and a 'respectable' family man with good background ; with 'Status' .






Men like the one in the article : if not caught in time , will lead to worst . : not 'worse' ; to 'worst' x




*CMorris : I'm not challenging you with 'guess what' ; I'm in agreement with your post x

I'm an indecent, lazy singleton.

Obviously above suspicion.