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    Quote Originally Posted by John Dunne View Post
    I can only respond to this with the information I have been provided with, and the experience I've had.

    You're post, is depressing.

    It alludes to some backstreet safe house type of situation, where haggard women entertain run down old junkies who come in smelling off booze and bad breath.

    From what I see - that's not really the case. As in, it doesn't really happen like that.

    I've heard sex workers complain that they get a lot of "older" clientele, as in, old men. Grand-Dads, and such.

    I know from being in Amsterdam - well, I don't know about their experiences, but I know the girls used to reef open their door with a smile on their faces when an old dude showed up, cause it meant big $$$$$$.
    Now I understand their system can operate differently to the escort system, as in - now, I genuinely don't know the fine details - but some escorts may, regardless of the nature or disposition of the "customer", feel obligated to simulate that "intimacy", because that's what's advertised, perhaps.
    Which might be a bit, "yuck" - whatever.
    Again, I truly have no idea.
    Maybe they find some older dudes charming and don't mind getting all sticky with them.


    But - a clear cut example.

    I once had a lengthy discussion with a sex worker, as to whether she enjoyed the sex.

    Yes - was the simple answer.
    She enjoyed the sex.

    That would immediately contradict your, "being intimate with clients they don't find the least attractive, being an abhorrent drawback of the work", motion.

    Now, I'm sure she wasn't speaking for every sex worker on the face of the planet - but she seemed to be confident that was, by and large, the case for a lot of girls.
    Several other sex worker echoed them sentiments. Several girls alluding to, "it's just work. No big deal. And when the guy is nice? It's actually a good time".

    This specific girl went on to say,

    "Say I have 20 clients in my 12 hour shift.
    10 of them, I will enjoy the sex, sometimes experiencing an orgasm.
    5 of them, will be just ordinary, going through the motions.
    And the last 5 will be assholes, where I just want to get it over with as soon as possible".


    To me, that sounds like a run of the mill days work, being indefinite regarding type of profession.
    Meeting different people at work, most, will be nice, some will be okay, and a few will be assholes.


    Your post paints a picture of inhumanity, these workers exposing themselves to the most deplorable conditions, and deserve our utmost sympathy and respect, for the vile endeavors they so graciously perform, for our perverse benefit.

    Reality, is not that.

    Granted - for some girls, like you say, I'm sure it's not a long line of swanky business men parading through their premises all day long.


    What this boils down to for me is, these notions you project - in my experience, from my understanding - they're not the case.

    So, "being angry", on behalf of these poor delicate helpless vulnerable souls, is anger misplaced.
    Don't misinterpret me.
    I'm not saying they're bullet proof superhumans, but this age old notion that they're incompetent defenselessly exposed creatures, susceptible to the ill will of every jaded client that wasn't happy with his blowjob, is just nonsense.
    Your post conveys that, and it's misinformation, frankly.

    The highlighted part of your post I agree with.
    Some people have to have the last word,
    but they don't actually want you to stop talking,
    as they like the sound of their own voices too much.



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    Quote Originally Posted by John Dunne View Post
    The main part of JC's post I was referring to or addressing, was the supposed depravity sex workers, escorts in this case, subject themselves to.

    The part that I really take issue with is.

    "....gracious enough to suck your cock...."

    ".... the most intimate of acts with someone to whom they have ZERO attraction..."


    I mean, I know women often don't like to be direct about these things, maybe making these admissions publicly of sorts, mightn't be good for business but, there's a few escorts have made their presence known on this thread.

    Perhaps we could get some of you to weigh in on this matter?


    Some general feedback in terms of how you find specifically, the physical aspect of your work to go - putting aside the "risky business" topic for the moment.

    Is it true that there are many/all of your clients, to whom there is "zero attraction"?

    Have you ever found some of your clients repulsive?

    What do you do in that situation?
    Go through the motions, the act, the routine?
    Is it as abhorrent for you as JC makes it sound??


    Conversely, do you find any of your clients attractive, to the point where you enjoy sex with them?
    That being the case, do you indulge in genuine intimacy, as well as physical gratification?
    Is there ever a "shield" - probably not the best description - but a barrier you put up, to avoid becoming attached to a client?
    Attachment meaning, potential heartbreak and such. Probably a bit of a dramatic description...

    Elucidate us...
    Jaysus Johnny boy, you are prolific..

    There are loads of happy hookers out there lad, nobody is disputing that. I think the whole point of this thread is that each one of these "happy hookers" still dreads, that one day she will meet a prick. This guy just sentenced is one of these.. A prick. Thats all I am saying John.

    Sher... the majority of the girls find the Irish men quite attractive actually... Dont ye girls?...
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    Intimidation of a witness, or the person who has made the original complaint, is a serious offence. Again people are being blinded by the context in which the offence was committed. If it were intimidation in a drug or murder trial - or in any other context - he would have being given a longer sentence. He got off lightly - the victim is paying a higher price.

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    'He took into account the fact that the man had no previous convictions, a good employment record, that he has a number of small children and that he was otherwise of good character.........His real identity was unknown to the woman or gardaí as he used a pseudonym on the Escorts Ireland website and an unregistered mobile to arrange the meeting'.

    How bad does your character have to get before it is not of good character?! No thought to his kids let alone the poor girl he victimised, what a scumbag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prickly View Post
    Intimidation of a witness, or the person who has made the original complaint, is a serious offence. Again people are being blinded by the context in which the offence was committed. If it were intimidation in a drug or murder trial - or in any other context - he would have being given a longer sentence. He got off lightly - the victim is paying a higher price.
    Blackmailing an escort could be added to above.

    She had to move several times, out of fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floki View Post
    Why can't they name and shame him when when the papers seem to name and shame escorts much of the time?
    In this case, they mention neither of them.
    Surely threatening an escort is much worse than an escort trying to make a living? If they don't see this, then they are just scum.
    Welcome to Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floki View Post
    Why can't they name and shame him when when the papers seem to name and shame escorts much of the time?
    In this case, they mention neither of them.
    Surely threatening an escort is much worse than an escort trying to make a living? If they don't see this, then they are just scum.
    I'm no law expert but I think that if the guy is named and shamed then the lady's name would also be put into the public domain and all his threatening about exposing her would come to be. If she was willing to have her real name exposed then he would have no protection and would also have been exposed.
    So I think at end of the day he has been punished and the call for his head probably isn't nessecary. I am quite sure his family has been ruined, all his friends and work colleagues know what happened and he will be away from his kids for a while. He fucked up and he is going to pay for that now. The escorts identity has been protected so she may continue on with her life so I think she came out the better at the end of it.
    Intimidation is not nice crime and can cause people to do silly things when they feel cornered because that feeling of pressure is not healthy. I think it ended as well as it could.
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