Welcome New Law

[Petros]

Yes but they are increasing the consequences, so the risk of being caught doing this illegal act is greater than it currently is in the South. This means that sex workers are going to be harder hit. Also, if we are charging more because we are working safely for you then we need a smaller foot fall and to be even more discreet, otherwise how can we justify saying we are safer for you to visit? In order to make the risk lighter for you, these are the kind of measures needed to be taken. It is no longer a matter of considering what is good for us, but also having to consider what is good for our clients.

Many Independent sex workers share and as such in the eyes of the law they are not independent. The fact that they don't work for anyone and no one else gets a cut of their money doesn't matter. The law is always open to manipulation.

This is a very good point Kate — reduced footfall will obviously have a direct reflection on costs! But it will also reduce the chances of neighbours or any other onlookers noticing anything. This will in return improve discretion for all involved.

As for the new law — well, it isn't here yet! We don't know for sure what it will involve nor how it will be implemented — until we do ass this discussion is very much up in the air.

I will wait until it is in operation before making any serious decisions about how I will continue to meet the lovely ladies on E-I.

[annabel taylor]

https://youtu.be/IbkziFdxHuA



Yup all those hot punters just out of prison with full sacks
Mmmm

[TonyB]

https://youtu.be/IbkziFdxHuA



Yup all those hot punters just out of prison with full sacks
Mmmm

Clients not worried about the law or any law, in other words scumbags will remain as clients.
The good guys will be afraid of being caught

[annabel taylor]

Clients not worried about the law or any law, in other words scumbags will remain as clients.
The good guys will be afraid of being caught

Of course u are correct

The world is fucked folks the end of prostituton has come
There be mass burnings of whips stockings and corset

Look at America success Sweden success and the north

[tom sand]

it will be a spot fine, no court no nothing, therefore you have no defence, the only defense you might have is not paying it....but Im sure you could guess how that would work out for you?

In law things dont need to proven 100% just proven beyond reasonable doubt.
you only have to tell a garda your name and address, nothing more in this situation. you can lie about why you are there and turn a spot fine into a court case or bring other problems on yourself, but rational people dont behave like that, thats more just the internet white night keyboard warriors domain

if youre going to go for a false alibi scenario, well all I can say is you better be worth the same as gold to the agencies you claim to know and have an already thought out alibi on hand which you all agree on (yeah thatll happen )

in short, dont be an idiot and pay the fine

no name and shame funlover no ???????????

[Zander]

it will be a spot fine, no court no nothing, therefore you have no defence, the only defense you might have is not paying it....but Im sure you could guess how that would work out for you?

In law things dont need to proven 100% just proven beyond reasonable doubt.
you only have to tell a garda your name and address, nothing more in this situation. you can lie about why you are there and turn a spot fine into a court case or bring other problems on yourself, but rational people dont behave like that, thats more just the internet white night keyboard warriors domain

if youre going to go for a false alibi scenario, well all I can say is you better be worth the same as gold to the agencies you claim to know and have an already thought out alibi on hand which you all agree on (yeah thatll happen )

in short, dont be an idiot and pay the fine

first offence spot fines but different story second time i would say, no one wants to be in that situation anyway, names taken and so on

[Zander]

Jeez people will you all stop getting you underwear in a twist!! Is New Law IN, NO. Is there a general election soon, YES, different minster, different priorities, and as I have said in PM to some people IF new law comes in First thing police will go after are street girls, second will be trafficked, third will be pimps and gangs, and then MAYBE apartments with 3-5 girls working.
Only way ordinary girls would get caught is, 1 if you cause hassle in apartment and neighbors complain.2 you client causes hassle,drunk noisy ringing intercom at all hours,then police will be told, and 3 if somebody client,other escort, reports you.
The police do not have resources to stake out every apartment in the country.I do know what I am talking about!! and I would eat my hat(if I had one) if any ordinary girl , or client got caught.
Take a look at www.johntv.com is a vigilante site in US and some interesting stuff on there,but is all about street workers.
You guys and gals stop worrying,until it happens, then get advice from someone who knows.
Enjoy and stay safe.

police have very little to do at present, theyre not chasing the real criminals so would have plenty of time to stake out apartments as its very easy and less dangerous work

[funlover12]

Why do you think this? Source?

I'll be delighted - but very surprised - if this is correct. Their stated objective is to reduce demand, and a small chance of a spot fine would be nothing to worry about.

it was in the latest draught of the proposed legislation which is making its way through the seanead at the moment
there is probably a link for it in the threads around the place. have a dig through the 'sex work in the media' section from the last year or 6 months and youll probably find it, chances are thats where I found it at the time

[NoBrain2]

Why do you think this? Source?

I'll be delighted - but very surprised - if this is correct. Their stated objective is to reduce demand, and a small chance of a spot fine would be nothing to worry about.

Thats how it works in Sweden anyway.

[funlover12]

Thats how it works in Sweden anyway.

looks like someone 'accidentally' left out the 'reconstruction' warning you so often see in videos like that on crimeline