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    Quote Originally Posted by MidlifeCrisis View Post
    I asked for anyone better informed to chip in. What I had in mind was intelligent explanation rather than patronising onanism. I was trying to understand how the system works. If you have anything to add worth typing, please do.
    It's coming down the track.

    Don't get caught in the tunnel.

    That was a worthwhile comment.

    And when the law is passed, celebrate by visiting an escort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidlifeCrisis View Post
    I asked for anyone better informed to chip in. What I had in mind was intelligent explanation rather than patronising onanism. I was trying to understand how the system works. If you have anything to add worth typing, please do.
    I hope this helps with Bills 101

    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en...gislation.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoidberg View Post
    Yes that is useful. Thanks. I can't imagine the Dail rejecting the amended Bill, as the four main parties have shown strong support. Do you know what that means in terms of probable timescales, if the Report Stage starts tomorrow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidlifeCrisis View Post
    Yes that is useful. Thanks. I can't imagine the Dail rejecting the amended Bill, as the four main parties have shown strong support. Do you know what that means in terms of probable timescales, if the Report Stage starts tomorrow?
    The report stage is only in the Seanad, it lasts as long as they can debate their amendments put forward (if any). When it passes report stage it is then passed to the Dáil. At the moment there doesn't seem to be a start date in the Dáil so unless the Government make it a priority it may not be passed by the 31st Dáil

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    i like the word guillotine!!!!!

    Ruth Coppinger (Dublin West, Socialist Party)
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    In regard to impending legislation, when will the Criminal Justice (Sexual Offences) Bill be brought before the Dáil and will there be sufficient time to deal with it? Obviously, we are near the end of this Government's term. At what stage does the Taoiseach anticipate we will be able to take this Bill? Will there be sufficient time for amendments on what is a very complex issue? Many groups have made submissions on this and are anxious that it would be dealt with.
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    Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Taoiseach, Department of An Taoiseach; Mayo, Fine Gael)
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    It is important legislation, as Deputy Coppinger says. It is in the Seanad on Report Stage on Thursday. I cannot say whether the eminent speakers in Seanad Éireann will want to amend it or how long it will take to discuss. When it concludes Report Stage in the Seanad, it will then come here.
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    Photo of Ruth CoppingerRuth Coppinger (Dublin West, Socialist Party)
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    The Taoiseach knows when he will call the election. Does he anticipate that all Stages will be taken or just Second Stage?
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    Photo of Seán BarrettSeán Barrett (Ceann Comhairle; Dún Laoghaire, Ceann Comhairle)
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    We will have to wait until it comes here.
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    Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Taoiseach, Department of An Taoiseach; Mayo, Fine Gael)
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    I cannot say how long the Seanad will take to deal with Report Stage given there are amendments and Members can have very strongly held views about it. I do not want to do the Seanad's business for it.
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    Photo of Ruth CoppingerRuth Coppinger (Dublin West, Socialist Party)
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    Will it be guillotined?
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    Photo of Enda KennyEnda Kenny (Taoiseach, Department of An Taoiseach; Mayo, Fine Gael)
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    Let us first see when it finishes in the Seanad.

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    actually guillotine is bad !!!! it means stifling debate and pushing it through!!!

    A Guillotine Motion or 'Guillotine order' is the common name for an Allocation of Time Motion which is a British House of Commons procedure that can be used to restrict the time set aside for debate during the passage of a bill through the House. Another such method is via a Programme Order, which is a relatively recent innovation.

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    What is the big deal, we all know it coming in and just a matter of time,

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    Quote Originally Posted by MALCOLM View Post
    What is the big deal, we all know it coming in and just a matter of time,
    I'm an optimist, I still hope.
    This thread is depressing, or I suppose the reality of this new law is

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    through the seanad on thursday heres a quote from one senator

    'All of us who support the Bill will very much hope that it will see passage through the Dáil in the limited time available to the Government. I know the Minister will do all she can and we will do anything we can to help secure the Bill's passage, because the reforms it provides for are so important. As the Minister said, the Bill is ground-breaking, comprehensive and of such significance that it is vital that we see it passed in the next week or so.'

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