Originally Posted by
zilch
Sounds like you chatting up the wrong kinda lady for you and maybe you jumping the gun with them.
Try chatting to them without the thought of getting into their panties.
You might just get a different vibe from them and the panties may drop without you even thinking about it.
Some of my mates ain't no oil paintings or loaded yet have stunning wives.
They are just funny gits that would sell sand to the Arabs.
speaking well is one of the certain characteristics we look for in people. as in if they can speak well, they impress us. politicians, sales reps etc all must speak well to seduce their audience. the same applies to a man trying to charm a woman.
"The mass of men live lives of quiet desperation" - Henry David Thoreau.