The law hasn't changed in this regard since they used to advertise before ... Maybe it gained some more exposure but nothing else.Originally Posted by nonpareil
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The law hasn't changed in this regard since they used to advertise before ... Maybe it gained some more exposure but nothing else.
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Eloquently put.I personally welcome a lot more threads like these rather the 90% boring repetitive shite that gets posted.
At least it makes people think and for some, hopefully, it could be an eye opener.
But some of you guys really should take your ego out of your equation and discuss normally.
Just my opinions in the few points below, hopefully some other people will agree and add to them:
- There is a difference between a professional agency, run as the elite agencies are run in UK and a pimp having some girls. A professional agency is merely an employer, a facilitator. A pimp merely just exploits the workers.
- If someone has facilitators, why they don't advertise that ? I know lots of people ring escorts and get a vibe of the escort from what she sounds like? Surely it's a bit deceiving for any client looking for more than just a sexual service when he goes in and see the girl sounds different or has little English. Heck, if that's the norm, let's all do it, I'll have a lot more clients if I can get someone to answer my calls, since staying on the phone is my number one cause of stressed and since I don't suffer fools gladly my entire day is sometimes ruined.
- If someone is having an agency, why not advertise as agency? From any decent point of view that's just deceiving. And not to mention is not giving the client the knowledge he is in fact walking into a brothel. Some people care about that and would not be caught dead in a such a place, some people would not care. In the future, if they criminalise clients, don't you think clients would rather prefer a more discreet place run by an indie ?? At the moment, advertising as agency does even has advantages, such as lower advertising fees, greater choice for people who are that way inclined, greater probability of getting someone short notice etc ...
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- Now when we introduce the idea of facilitators, agencies and pimps, how difficult is for a client to know when exactly he is facing an innocent situation and when there is some element of coercion or any kind of pressure for the escort to do what she doesFor anybody with a moral compass this is indeed the question
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Because there is a stigma attached to the word "Agency" Amy, you know this. You also know that insisting on an indie does not always guarantee one avoids a brothel, as most touring indies work in pairs.
To advertise as "Agency" is just not good for business... that's it!
As for deceiving the client who may have fallen in love with the voice before meeting the girl, I would tend to worry a lot more about being deceived by any escort, indie or assisted, that is not true to profile. At the end of the day, I want the girl I saw advertised to meet me to be happy to see me and to be exactly as advertised... its irrelevant to me who answers the phone.
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And why is there a stigma attached to the word agency here and not elsewhere?
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Not 100% sure... but I can guess that its because Ireland is a small country and men do not want to seen exiting a known agency premises. Also perhaps because running a brothel is illegal and men also think in may be illegal for them to visit one. Maybe its due to the amount of negativity here on the biggest escorting boards in Ireland...
Dunno....
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I agree with you but those threads and posters who post on them tend not to last longI personally welcome a lot more threads like these rather the 90% boring repetitive shite that gets posted.
At least it makes people think and for some, hopefully, it could be an eye opener.
But some of you guys really should take your ego out of your equation and discuss normally.
Just my opinions in the few points below, hopefully some other people will agree and add to them:
- There is a difference between a professional agency, run as the elite agencies are run in UK and a pimp having some girls. A professional agency is merely an employer, a facilitator. A pimp merely just exploits the workers.
- If someone has facilitators, why they don't advertise that ? I know lots of people ring escorts and get a vibe of the escort from what she sounds like? Surely it's a bit deceiving for any client looking for more than just a sexual service when he goes in and see the girl sounds different or has little English. Heck, if that's the norm, let's all do it, I'll have a lot more clients if I can get someone to answer my calls, since staying on the phone is my number one cause of stressed and since I don't suffer fools gladly my entire day is sometimes ruined.
- If someone is having an agency, why not advertise as agency? From any decent point of view that's just deceiving. And not to mention is not giving the client the knowledge he is in fact walking into a brothel. Some people care about that and would not be caught dead in a such a place, some people would not care. In the future, if they criminalise clients, don't you think clients would rather prefer a more discreet place run by an indie ?? At the moment, advertising as agency does even has advantages, such as lower advertising fees, greater choice for people who are that way inclined, greater probability of getting someone short notice etc ...
- Now when we introduce the idea of facilitators, agencies and pimps, how difficult is for a client to know when exactly he is facing an innocent situation and when there is some element of coercion or any kind of pressure for the escort to do what she does
agencies would be more likely to repeatedly run false profiles than independents imo
bad history here at times
http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoi...ll-165944.html
http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoi...ip-167790.html
Selena and Diams were among the most popular escorts but posters all know this. sort of thing best placed under the carpet
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link failed before
http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoi...ip-167790.html
that should be it
some good points there
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There is a stigma ... for some. Lots of people already assume we are all agencies
For some others, is a rather useful info, since they know they can get an escort late at night and sometimes are being able to chose live from a few girls.
And regarding the voice, I already mentioned that for some, talking to the actual girl is rather important to ensure a succesfull appointment. For those kind of clients (which I have plenty), there is no substitute. Some don't mind as long as she is the girl in the pics.
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Yes, many clients knew. Many didn't care and I think some of the escorts were actually good escorts.
Good example for the dillema of not knowing when an agency is decent or not, when the line from employer to gross pimping is crissed. In the examples you gave above, some ladies were treated rather fairly, being girlfriends of the people in charge. Others were sent to do anal bareback if they didn't make enough money, as I remember reading from the transcripts.
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