Rachel,
If I was a female escort, one thing is for sure, I would be very security conscious, which means, I would need another escort close by or access to security person, btw that does not mean a pimp!
If you're question is about, my estimation of levels of classical trafficking, I think that exists almost exclusively in the world of TV dramas, but in the real world, it might exist in Ethnic Chinese and African communities here, where those groups would be the primary market. BTW I am in no way saying that somebody of Chinese/African origin would not be equally as outraged by the notion of trafficking as I am and I believe anybody trafficking another human being for sexual exploitation should get mandatory life in prison and also there has to be very hard sentences for any client abusing a sex worker (there should be extra tariffs for hate crimes/ crimes against vulnerable people, which AFAIK, have yet to be brought into Irish law).
I would be fairly sure that a lot of our wonderful foreign escorts have got help and advice to set themselves up initially, but that's no issue as long as their consenting adults and there's no element of leeching off them by the 'agency'/helper.
Ride them on the beaches!
Rachel,
Also, if you ever come across as I have seen (sorry, I cannot provide a link), the rates of convictions on brothel keeping charges as a proportion of cases of charges for this, they are actually quite small for various reasons, basically it's quite hard for the Pigs/DPP to get convictions in this area.
Mind you we have had appaling cases of Eastern Euroean escorts being deported or jailed, for working 2 or more from the same address and stomach churningly further, money found on the premises (which may be life savings not money from sex work at all) given to RUHAMA (as I say, what do you call somebody, who benefits from the earnings of a sex worker and what do you call somebody who willingly accepts the life savings of another, without their consent?) and of course Denise Charlton and her lads in the Immigrant Council Of Ireland were nowhere to be seen as these consensual workers were being deported!
Ride them on the beaches!
You said one lady working alone, therefore my comment.
Sharing for security purpose, I understand it, but where do you draw the line? How it is to know to the client and/or the police the lady sharing it is independent? How it is to know the guy sitting in the living room it is a boyfriend who is not mentally coercing the lady to work in this industry? How can that be proved?
Truth is the police here do not care therefore the small % on convictions.
Do you think a new lady charging low rates it is happy to do so?
Do you think a new lady will know how to work this forum at it best it is independent?
I think the clients in Ireland are very ignorant, put it that way.
You have made some valid points on this thread.
I am actually surprised that Ruhama/TORL have not used said “deportations” which you referred to above as part of the propaganda to portray Swedish-style Legislation as a means by which such Legisaltive Models would benefit Sex Workers (you know, along the lines of “Swedish-style Legislation will decriminalize Sex Workers and mean no more of these deporations”).
However you, I and the rest of the E-I Community are well aware of the dangers which Swedish-style Legislation will mean for Sex Workers.
So too are Ruhama/TORL aware.
Odds against you?
PM The Equalizer
Surely she would be very busy and I ain't the one gving her money.
As far as I know, deportations/ harsh decisions from a judge were in place when the ladies used an known working apartment, sometimes after been told not to work from there anymore.
It is easier to send a few ladies home than to question the bf sitting in the living room, sending love pms to potential clients.
Last edited by Rachel Divine; 31-05-15 at 15:31.
SmallHorn (31-05-15)
Not only are TORLER groups aware of the consequences of Swedish Model type laws for sex workers, for some of them it is very much an intended consequence, arguably the most important reason for its introduction, along with opening a new revenue stream to 'help' repentant sex workers on their knees before them, punishing (almost exclusively working class) men obviously comes into it as well!
This is clearly failed insane legislation and no decent human being can in anyway benefit from it and it will definitely make life hell on earth for many as intended!
Ride them on the beaches!