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[Davidontour]

Swedish figures overall suggest that the chances of being apprehended as a client are somewhere around 5%.

It does need to be remembered that this is NOT about trafficking. This is about, as Frances Fitzgerald says; ''sending a message.'' Sex work is strongly disapproved by religionists and certain strands of feminism. TORL and Ruhama are well aware of the facts but are also well aware that the public aren't, so by pushing false definitions and statistics, they can benefit from increased funding and influence.

No-one is going to be 'saved' or 'rescued' through client criminalisation. If they were, this would have been agreed in Westminster and Scotland last year instead of being rejected. The USA would have stamped out trafficking and sex work decades ago as their policies against clients are much tougher than anything proposed here. It hasn't worked there or in Sweden and it won't work here.

What it will do though is increase stigma, decrease sex worker safety, deny sex workers rights and raise revenue, some of which will be channeled back to the Magdalenes and various other opportunistic NGOs.

So it will be up to clients to keep themselves safe by being discreet and sensible. Sweden still has large numbers of sex workers after 16 years. Client criminalisation makes things more difficult, but ultimately doesn't stop consenting adults having sex.

[bollocks]

Being discrete is fine for repeat visits...I find first visits can indeed be very dificult with escorts giving poor descriptiions, sometimes with good enough english, but bad pronouciation.
Nothing worse than phone calls on a busy street, or trying to find the correct appartment niumber and bell sign on a dark wet night.
If a resident makes a complaint, then the police have to investigate.
Repeat visits are usually fine

[dob]

We in Ireland tend to have low national self esteem. Hence Enda endlessly going on about our'international reputation". Another aspect of this is the constant referring to 'our dark past' a litany of various secret or not so secret abuses carried out by a combination of Church (both RC and COI) bodies and state collusion. While sad and tragic all this is, you will find similar or even worse abuses carried out in many other countries (think Nazi Germany)

Sweden is no different. This country practiced the the dark practice of Eugenics, the forced sterilisation of women to stop them reproducing and fouling up the purity of the Swedish race.