NI 1st june

[Walshie]

So where are you going to run to when the law goes to the South? Are you seriously telling me that all the guys are going to get a plane to England for some fun?

I am and have been doing, it was working out cheaper travelling to England even with paying return plane tickets than punting here in Ireland,strange but true.
I not sure what other will do, it depends on their circumstances and some say they will retire too if comes in, its up to everyone self what they wish to do

[newballsplease]

I'm with Kate on this one, I'm coming to Belfast on the 1st to find out the men from the boys


Tiff xxx

Tiff,I always knew you were a lady with balls!!!!

[TiffanyTees]

thing is we weren't seen as criminals before

Welcome to our world.


Tiff xxx

[TonyStark]

I'm with Kate on this one, I'm coming to Belfast on the 1st to find out the men from the boys


Tiff xxx

Like your style, unfortunately I'm in Thailand then so won;t be able to prove my manhood then but the more I think about this, the more I think it will be hard to enforce.

Just gonna be cautious about girls I've never met before after a period of sitting on the sidelines watching.

[Curvaceous Kate]

I am and have been doing, it was working out cheaper travelling to England even with paying return plane tickets than punting here in Ireland,strange but true.
I not sure what other will do, it depends on their circumstances and some say they will retire too if comes in, its up to everyone self what they wish to do

Of course it is up to the individual, as no one forces someone to indulge in a luxury item, but from my experience, most find it difficult finding the time to drive 30 mins up the road, let alone getting on a plane and flying to a different County. It's not like you can just 'pop' out under the guise of walking the dog or going for a pint. It was more about feasibility that I was questioning and I'm sorry but if there is nothing happening at home... how long can you go without? I know I wouldn't want to.

Of course you have to play safe, but if you have a regular who you feel fairly confident will be okay to visit, why would you go without?

[Genie in a Bottle]

Welcome to our world.


Tiff xxx

but yous were never seen as criminals? Independent girls were never harassed by police, were they?

[Curvaceous Kate]

but yous were never seen as criminals? Independent girls were never harassed by police, were they?

Are you joking? Plus most regular people think what we are doing is illegal, so it is neither here nor there that Independent sex workers have always been legal.

[Genie in a Bottle]

Are you joking? Plus most regular people think what we are doing is illegal, so it is neither here nor there that Independent sex workers have always been legal.

but they were just old fuddy duddy and factually its not illegal but for clients it will be illegal and a criminal offence so does change things for us in a way now, far from an ideal situation but what can you do

[Davidontour]

Your signature relating the number of attacks on sex workers paradoxically supports the case for criminalising clients.

No it doesn't.

It supports the case for allowing escorts to work together for safety, which is illegal at present.
It supports the case for encouraging sex workers to contact the police, something which client criminalisation will deter.
It supports the case for TORL, Ruhama and the DUP to stop lying to the media and the public about trafficking figures and be honest about their motives.

Only a tiny proportion of clients assault sex workers. Those individuals won't be deterred by a fine or a court appearance.

''If there are no clients, then no escorts then no trafficking pimping or other associated crime.''

Your statement is extremely naive. There isn't a single country on the planet (including those with the death penalty) that doesn't have sex workers and clients. The US have been trying to 'end demand' through criminalisation for over a century now, resulting in complete failure. There is no actual evidence that the Swedish Model has reduced demand at all.

The ideal system for sex workers is the New Zealand model where it is decriminalised and SWs have equal rights with other workers.

[Curvaceous Kate]

but they were just old fuddy duddy and factually its not illegal but for clients it will be illegal and a criminal offence so does change things for us in a way now, far from an ideal situation but what can you do

Independent Escorts working on their own are in the minority in the sex trade. The majority do have to worry about things being illegal and even those that do work on their own. If they work in any accommodation that has been used previously by another Escort, they have the threat of potentially being accused of being a brothel owner, or working in a brothel. They can even twist it that you are working in a brothel if you are staying in a hotel at the same time as another sex worker.

You really don't have a clue what we have to go through, plus the very real threat of being told to leave premises if discovered working. That can be a lot of fun 10pm at night (they like to do it in the middle of the night for some reason).

So, for sure worry about potentially being labelled a criminal, but we have been living with this threat from day one and there is no argument you can give that will take that away or make your plight any more significant.