“Gay Cake” Guilty Verdict

[redone7010]

No matter what a person's religion(or label as I prefer), if it is their job and they signed an employment contract stating what duties their job would involve then yes they should. As see earlier posts when I stated about having to partake in tasks I didn't necessarily feel comfortable with because it was my job.






Yes, this may cause debate but I'm not sure about political storm. In the longterm I can not help(or hope!) that it evolves NI into a better place for everyone. NI is run by politicians who IMO are no better than dogs pissing on a tree to mark their territory. Its tribal politics and the real issues get left behind over nationalist Vs unionist bickering, with both sides seemingly happy to stall,delay,stop anything moving forward as they have too much too loose, mostly for financial reasons IMO.

Most people who vote in NI do so for the one side or the other, which is basically pre determined by the street where they were born(which in most cases doubles up as their religion). The only politicians who actually seem to want to move forward are the people without a hidden agenda, most often these are minority parties or independents who get lost in the sea of BS being spread by the main parties.

The sooner people in NI wise up to the facts and want to make NI a better place for everyone instead of staying stuck in the past the better. Thats why I feel this case could be an example for the way forward. We are a western,modern country(apparently!) who continually vote in people with draconian attitudes who are only out for themselves.




Well thats me informed lol I've walked between the old & new courthouses 1000s of times and been in the old courts a few times(It wasn't me your honour just dropping off letters) and never knew that. I suppose its a good thing I dont know too much about it

I noticed you mentioned hidden agenda.
Do you honestly believe that the guy that ordered the cake from Ashers didn`t have an agenda ?

[Cassandra]

Whilst I understand the ruling, is there not an element of freedom of choice been attacked here. The bakery concerned had, whether, you agree or not, strong religious beliefs and wished not to supply the cake. So now you can't have a mind of your own it seems. I was going to vote yes, but no I don't know. Its a bit like the gay way or no way. What about mutual respect. I wonder had it being a Muslim shop would that have happened.........

Ah ah ah. The bakers had the beliefs...not the bakery.

[nonpareil]

The bakers need to put aside their religion for a period and spend some time on this site.
Then like escorts, they could offer certain services only to certain people.

[Devastator]

I noticed you mentioned hidden agenda.
Do you honestly believe that the guy that ordered the cake from Ashers didn`t have an agenda ?

I find it very strange that you have decided to take 2 words out of what I said and try to twist it around into attacking(?) the customer. Yes, I said "Hidden agenda" when talking about politicians, not Ashers nor the customer...so please try not to confuse them again.

I really can not answer your question anyway as it would be complete uneducated guesswork because I do not know the fella who wanted to buy the cake. It would be foolish to speculate on such a thing. IMO it does not matter whether he had an agenda or not, he was still discriminated against which is the issue and the case that was brought to court.

[redone7010]

I find it very strange that you have decided to take 2 words out of what I said and try to twist it around into attacking(?) the customer. Yes, I said "Hidden agenda" when talking about politicians, not Ashers nor the customer...so please try not to confuse them again.

I really can not answer your question anyway as it would be complete uneducated guesswork because I do not know the fella who wanted to buy the cake. It would be foolish to speculate on such a thing. IMO it does not matter whether he had an agenda or not, he was still discriminated against which is the issue and the case that was brought to court.

The statement you made on hidden agenda about politicians was based on your own opinion. Would that not come under the heading "complete uneducated guesswork".
As to the fella who wanted the cake, a bit of research on him and I believe it`snot that wide a stretch as to whether he had an agenda or not.
Would it perhaps not be a better idea than going around looking for discrimination, to earn respect by first giving it to others

[nonpareil]

The cake is innocent ffs.